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Everton Youth Teams Thread


Eggs said:
..just done a bit of research on Simms. From Oldham, seems he was at Man City then had trials/spells with Blackburn and Sunderland.
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I think I stuck some stuff on Simms when we signed him mate. He was very highly rated at City too, not one of their best prospects but well thought of. United wanted him too and I think Liverpool so did well to get him.

He has done ok since coming in but has been a bit underwhelmed by Gordon.

I like the lad, he is very big and strong and knows where the net is. Sometimes he looks a bit lethargic to me though. I'd like to see him dominating sides a bit more.

I think moving up to Unsworth would be good for him in that regard. It would also be a good barometer. Sambou/Manasse would provide good competition as would Hornby. They are all very useful players for that level, and Hornby may begin forcing himself on the first team fixture if he keeps getting better. I don't think Unsworth is necessarily the best coacher of strikers, but in terms of firstly Niasse and then Calvert Lewin he really helped them in becoming more rounded footballers. I'd say that would help Simms.

Either way it's good to see the 18's and 23's towards the top of their leagues. I know as a club we haven't been that bothers by that, and focussed a lot on progressing on younger players. However it's not bad thing and certainly if the club wants to go on to be a major competitor at senior level, instilling those standards from (at least) the 18's up becomes important. So too does making it harder for each player to move up an age group.
 

catcherintherye said:
I think I stuck some stuff on Simms when we signed him mate. He was very highly rated at City too, not one of their best prospects but well thought of. United wanted him too and I think Liverpool so did well to get him.

He has done ok since coming in but has been a bit underwhelmed by Gordon.

I like the lad, he is very big and strong and knows where the net is. Sometimes he looks a bit lethargic to me though. I'd like to see him dominating sides a bit more.

I think moving up to Unsworth would be good for him in that regard. It would also be a good barometer. Sambou/Manasse would provide good competition as would Hornby. They are all very useful players for that level, and Hornby may begin forcing himself on the first team fixture if he keeps getting better. I don't think Unsworth is necessarily the best coacher of strikers, but in terms of firstly Niasse and then Calvert Lewin he really helped them in becoming more rounded footballers. I'd say that would help Simms.

Either way it's good to see the 18's and 23's towards the top of their leagues. I know as a club we haven't been that bothers by that, and focussed a lot on progressing on younger players. However it's not bad thing and certainly if the club wants to go on to be a major competitor at senior level, instilling those standards from (at least) the 18's up becomes important. So too does making it harder for each player to move up an age group.
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If he is not dominating sides now why move him up to unsworth now and unsettle his development which is obviously going well within the u18 set up
No rush let the lad enjoy his football at least until Christmas. Just a thought
 
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Bennyonekanobe said:
If he is not dominating sides now why move him up to unsworth now and unsettle his development which is obviously going well within the u18 set up
No rush let the lad enjoy his football at least until Christmas. Just a thought
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Yeah , in previous seasons after Christmas when more U23s go out on loan has often been a time to move up the u18s . Hornby, having grabbed the headlines, is a likely target for clubs who want him on loan, leaving a big hole if he does go. There’s no doubt that scoring lots of goals for the u18s will boost his confidence and his striking ability, but playing U23s this season is a must, very few players progress if they haven’t played u21/23s at 17 /18 .
 
blueloon said:
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Yeah , in previous seasons after Christmas when more U23s go out on loan has often been a time to move up the u18s . Hornby, having grabbed the headlines, is a likely target for clubs who want him on loan, leaving a big hole if he does go. There’s no doubt that scoring lots of goals for the u18s will boost his confidence and his striking ability, but playing U23s this season is a must, very few players progress if they haven’t played u21/23s at 17 /18 .
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Yes some good points but I would also say that Gordon and Mampala have not played 23 football yet bar the odd sub for Gordon. Can they fill the hole Formby leaves? To develop you need to play full stop not warm the bench and fatten the u23s squad
 
blueloon said:
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Yeah , in previous seasons after Christmas when more U23s go out on loan has often been a time to move up the u18s . Hornby, having grabbed the headlines, is a likely target for clubs who want him on loan, leaving a big hole if he does go. There’s no doubt that scoring lots of goals for the u18s will boost his confidence and his striking ability, but playing U23s this season is a must, very few players progress if they haven’t played u21/23s at 17 /18 .
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Bennyonekanobe said:
Yes some good points but I would also say that Gordon and Mampala have not played 23 football yet bar the odd sub for Gordon. Can they fill the hole Formby leaves? To develop you need to play full stop not warm the bench and fatten the u23s squad
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..yes, was going to mention Mampala and even Simms having an opportunity if Hornby does go on loan. Both have the physicality to step up and it will really be more of a test for them.
 
Eggs said:
..yes, was going to mention Mampala and even Simms having an opportunity if Hornby does go on loan. Both have the physicality to step up and it will really be more of a test for them.
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Bennyonekanobe said:
Yes some good points but I would also say that Gordon and Mampala have not played 23 football yet bar the odd sub for Gordon. Can they fill the hole Formby leaves? To develop you need to play full stop not warm the bench and fatten the u23s squad
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Yeah, takes it back to my original point of playing for the U23s being the standard to judge our u18. Gordon was playing U23s last season before his injury, aswas Hornby, but from memory Mampala never started, maybe sub. Last season I was initially more impressed with Adedoyin than Mampala , then Mampala started banging in the goals towards the end of the season. It is hard to judge these youngsters as I don’t see enough of them, both Sambou and Mampala have had games when they’ve looked physical goalscorers but then fade away again. All interesting stuff, it’s good fun watching the kids develop .
 

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