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Everton Youth Teams Thread

I am personally not arsed. I don’t know if he’ll even grow into the body required to play centre half in top level footie.

….as far as I’m concerned, he’s a LB prospect and possibly already the best one at the club. Perhaps if he had a ‘pathway to the first team’, he’d have stayed lol
 
Read elsewhere it's his agent forcing the move through do to lack of a clear pathway at Everton.

You'd like to think that will improve in the next couple of years if the club gets a little bit of stability. You can't rely on 16/17 Yr olds in a relegation battle. It's just too big a gamble. (unless they're an obvious generational talent)

We honestly have bigger concerns right now than crying over the loss of a decent prospect at left back.

In our current situation I'd rather take 4m today and worry about U18/U21 pathways once we're cemented as a mid table club as opposed to a perennial battler.

It's crap, but that's the reality.
 
How on earth can you state a young player has more chance of first team football at Everton than Chelsea?

We've brought through one in years. Chelsea bring through one a year.

It's just not true mate.

We brought Gordon through last season Kenny and Davies before that. None of them would have got a chance at Chelsea.

How many lads have Chelsea put into their first team, who were at their academy from say age 12 in the last 1-2 years?

It's not 1 a year.
 

….Lewis Gibson’s ‘pathway to the first team’ worked well, he’s just joined Plymouth after letting his contract run down. It’s a nonsense of a phrase. The very special ones will come through and the others won’t, regardless of what’s written on a bit of paper:

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….when I was a youngster with clubs after me & others in the ‘70s, there were offers of apprenticeships with guaranteed professional contracts. Things haven’t changed so much, you can have all the pathways in the world but only a few very special ones will come through.
 
It's just not true mate.

We brought Gordon through last season Kenny and Davies before that. None of them would have got a chance at Chelsea.

How many lads have Chelsea put into their first team, who were at their academy from say age 12 in the last 1-2 years?

It's not 1 a year.

Mount. Abraham. Hall. Chalobah. Hudson Odoi.

All five debuted after Tom Davies.
 
Read elsewhere it's his agent forcing the move through do to lack of a clear pathway at Everton.

You'd like to think that will improve in the next couple of years if the club gets a little bit of stability. You can't rely on 16/17 Yr olds in a relegation battle. It's just too big a gamble. (unless they're an obvious generational talent)

We honestly have bigger concerns right now than crying over the loss of a decent prospect at left back.

In our current situation I'd rather take 4m today and worry about U18/U21 pathways once we're cemented as a mid table club as opposed to a perennial battler.

It's crap, but that's the reality.
Think the pathway conversation isnt true.
We have 1 first team left back and an injury prone Godfrey who isnt a left back as his back up.
He made the bench a few times last term and would of at the end of the season if he hadent been away with England.
James Vaughan has also done a really good job in the past 12 months of getting positive development loans for our younger players, if he stayed he would get a loan pretty certainlly.

What he will get at Chelsea is a couple of things.
He will be training with the top players in europe for his age group every day, along with top facilitys and top coaches, he will also get better exposure as a 'Chelsea' youth player in terms of there network and ability to get players loans across europe or higher up the ladder (these dont always work).
Chelsea's first team wont be the target for ISS it will be the next few years development then getting the move from chelsea at 19/20 to a team of his choice and a nice profit for Chelsea
 
Chilwell, Cucurella, Maatsen, Hall at LB. Colwill, Badiashile, Fofana etc at cb. It's just such a bad choice. 4 million is close to a record fee for 17 year old after liverpool paid 4.3 for Elliott.

It does level us incredibly short on numbers though
 
Chilwell, Cucurella, Maatsen, Hall at LB. Colwill, Badiashile, Fofana etc at cb. It's just such a bad choice. 4 million is close to a record fee for 17 year old after liverpool paid 4.3 for Elliott.

It does level us incredibly short on numbers though
Might leave the 21s short on numbers but realistically it’s immaterial to the first team picture. A skinny (just turned) 17 year old defender without a minute played in men’s football would be turned to mincemeat in the premier league.
 

Think the pathway conversation isnt true.
We have 1 first team left back and an injury prone Godfrey who isnt a left back as his back up.
He made the bench a few times last term and would of at the end of the season if he hadent been away with England.
James Vaughan has also done a really good job in the past 12 months of getting positive development loans for our younger players, if he stayed he would get a loan pretty certainlly.

What he will get at Chelsea is a couple of things.
He will be training with the top players in europe for his age group every day, along with top facilitys and top coaches, he will also get better exposure as a 'Chelsea' youth player in terms of there network and ability to get players loans across europe or higher up the ladder (these dont always work).
Chelsea's first team wont be the target for ISS it will be the next few years development then getting the move from chelsea at 19/20 to a team of his choice and a nice profit for Chelsea

Also, as @Eggs Likes to point out, he could be already, now on a contract which makes him a multi millionaire as a teenager.
 

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