sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Few posts above, 'both are worthy of first team squad'. I was marely pointing out theres no basis for it this early
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Everton Youth Teams Thread
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Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
THE 2 TEAMS TODAY,
Our u18s if they win look like they are about to go 5 points ahead of 2nd placed man city,and we will have game in hand,
man city with 7 mins to go in there game are 2-2 home to blackburn,city drew level on 83
3rd place Liverpool who we play in 2 weeks time drew 1-1 away to boro yesterday
Our u18s if they win look like they are about to go 5 points ahead of 2nd placed man city,and we will have game in hand,
man city with 7 mins to go in there game are 2-2 home to blackburn,city drew level on 83
3rd place Liverpool who we play in 2 weeks time drew 1-1 away to boro yesterday
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bluebrotha77
Player Valuation: £20m
Is broadhead injured?
I don't think so . He played at 9 for Wales u19 in their 2-3 defeat to Albania on Tuesday,no report of him being subbed or injured but hard to tell. He may be rested, but Davies,Walsh, Dowell & Evans are also not included in today's team compared to last week so its likely a few of them will be in the u21 squad for the Porto game. Its nice to see Shayne Lavery starting, I noticed his ginger head heading the ball in the lead up to our winning goal last week after he came on as sub.
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Goal everton u18s on 44 mins,1-0 half time
Morgan Feeney, heading home from a Myers corner after Brewster's flick on
Morgan Feeney, heading home from a Myers corner after Brewster's flick on
You reckon Yarney/Feeney as CBs and Bainbridge in midfield; Donohue , Kinsella on wings with maybe Brewster/ Lavery as strikers in a 4-4-2 . hard to tell ?
Coffee and TV
Player Valuation: £25m
Quite a young team, seems like they're saving a few players for the U21 game against Porto tomorrow
stretford blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Adam Jones @Adam_Jones94 1m1 minute ago
GOAL! 2-0 to #EFCU18s now, Shayne Lavery finishes after Delial Brewster ran through and squared it to him
GOAL! 2-0 to #EFCU18s now, Shayne Lavery finishes after Delial Brewster ran through and squared it to him
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Goal Everton 2-0 on 70mins
Shayne Lavery finishes after Delial Brewster ran through and squared it to him
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
stretford blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Everton u18s draw 2-2,conceeding 2 late goals to stop us winning our 8th league game in a row,sunderland u18s were 2 up v man city last week and then lost 4-2
we are 3 points ahead of 2nd place city,and have a game in hand still,we have 8 games,and city have 7 games left,we play away to city the 4th or so last game
we are home to wolves next sat,man city are away to west brom
we are 3 points ahead of 2nd place city,and have a game in hand still,we have 8 games,and city have 7 games left,we play away to city the 4th or so last game
we are home to wolves next sat,man city are away to west brom
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Hi @Zatara , sorry mate your request scrambled my brain "How do I reply without repeating all the things Ive said before and a scope that could end up pages long?" To a certain extent its impossible to predict the future of our youngsters, at best we make educated guesses,. 16 months ago we we're wondering how the season would fare for the talents of Matt Kennedy, McAleny, Grant, Pennington, Lundstram, Junior , Chris Long all going out on loan ,and the enigma that was George Green. Some of that group of course are still in the mix for us, but you'll get my point .
"Also any others who may join the group" .Now that would be an epistle justifying those!. If we take our "golden 7" of 18/17 year olds who regularly play at u 21 level that we discuss regularly, everybody has their favourites. You could add an "Older 7 " of 19/21 years old playing at u21 or on loan, and even a "Younger 7" of players in the u 18 team who look "interesting". If we get 5 PL starters for us out of 21 that would be phenomenal, so it suggests some talented players wont make it or maybe at a lower level.
"weve signed Holgate of course". I think he's closest to getting on for a PL game, and would like to see him in the squad more often as cover for Coleman....... and maybe Barry. He appears to have the physical attributes to cover RB and DM as a squad player , and thre have been precedents this season of Reece Oxford WHU, Dier at Spurs stepping up from defence into midfield roles and taking their chances.
"enough potential to make positions their own? "The difficulty for youngsters is that when fit we have a team of internationals , so they need to oust an experienced player to make the position their own. Galloway has been excellent, but it took an injury to Baines to allow him a chance, he couldn't have ousted a fully fit Baines. So it may take injuries, loss of form to even allow them a chance let alone make it their own.
I'll take a different approach , and if I work back wards , I would say , looking at yesterday's team and squad as an example, we have three positions which , in my view, could be have potential for a youngster to develop into next - left midfield (Kone ), left DM ( Barry) and cover at RB for Coleman. The problem is I think the best 3 youngsters we have for those positions , Dowell, Ledson, & Kenny still lack enough experience to make a meaningful challenge soon . Holgate as I say is probably the closest. (There are certain positions we have that barring transfers and injury will be locked down hopefully for years so I was trying to figure out which could come available,)
Roberto has been magnificent in bringing on youngsters - Stones to Geri - to Ross - To Rom -= 4th goal is evidence of that. BUt in many ways he is conservative with his youngsters, we've gone from being the PL team with most 16 year old starters to almost a requirement of being "19 and with outside experience" before even getting into the squad. Its an area where I seem to be in a minority but I think he really needs to increase the exposure of youngsters in the squad. Yesterday, the six outfielders on the bench probably had an average age greater than the team on the field! You would expect to have a younger bench - it may be a bad match example as the u21 s play today, so Holgate, Browning may have been held back. Gerri and Ross were always coming off early, but at 4-0 what a lovely chance to say right Barry , have a rest , Holgate get on for the last 10 mins.
Its the only way to find out what the youngsters have - exposure to a higher level. I like Walsh, but I've no idea how good he is compared to other 18 year olds . Is he just a good but average player playing in a good team? Making meaningful comparisons is so difficult, I think i could do so for Connolly, Ledson and Kenny via comparisons with other England age group players who have played in their position, but that still makes it difficult to conclude if they are just good in their age group or have that something extra .
Sorry, it still turned out to be an overlong response and drifted away from your original question.
"Also any others who may join the group" .Now that would be an epistle justifying those!. If we take our "golden 7" of 18/17 year olds who regularly play at u 21 level that we discuss regularly, everybody has their favourites. You could add an "Older 7 " of 19/21 years old playing at u21 or on loan, and even a "Younger 7" of players in the u 18 team who look "interesting". If we get 5 PL starters for us out of 21 that would be phenomenal, so it suggests some talented players wont make it or maybe at a lower level.
"weve signed Holgate of course". I think he's closest to getting on for a PL game, and would like to see him in the squad more often as cover for Coleman....... and maybe Barry. He appears to have the physical attributes to cover RB and DM as a squad player , and thre have been precedents this season of Reece Oxford WHU, Dier at Spurs stepping up from defence into midfield roles and taking their chances.
"enough potential to make positions their own? "The difficulty for youngsters is that when fit we have a team of internationals , so they need to oust an experienced player to make the position their own. Galloway has been excellent, but it took an injury to Baines to allow him a chance, he couldn't have ousted a fully fit Baines. So it may take injuries, loss of form to even allow them a chance let alone make it their own.
I'll take a different approach , and if I work back wards , I would say , looking at yesterday's team and squad as an example, we have three positions which , in my view, could be have potential for a youngster to develop into next - left midfield (Kone ), left DM ( Barry) and cover at RB for Coleman. The problem is I think the best 3 youngsters we have for those positions , Dowell, Ledson, & Kenny still lack enough experience to make a meaningful challenge soon . Holgate as I say is probably the closest. (There are certain positions we have that barring transfers and injury will be locked down hopefully for years so I was trying to figure out which could come available,)
Roberto has been magnificent in bringing on youngsters - Stones to Geri - to Ross - To Rom -= 4th goal is evidence of that. BUt in many ways he is conservative with his youngsters, we've gone from being the PL team with most 16 year old starters to almost a requirement of being "19 and with outside experience" before even getting into the squad. Its an area where I seem to be in a minority but I think he really needs to increase the exposure of youngsters in the squad. Yesterday, the six outfielders on the bench probably had an average age greater than the team on the field! You would expect to have a younger bench - it may be a bad match example as the u21 s play today, so Holgate, Browning may have been held back. Gerri and Ross were always coming off early, but at 4-0 what a lovely chance to say right Barry , have a rest , Holgate get on for the last 10 mins.
Its the only way to find out what the youngsters have - exposure to a higher level. I like Walsh, but I've no idea how good he is compared to other 18 year olds . Is he just a good but average player playing in a good team? Making meaningful comparisons is so difficult, I think i could do so for Connolly, Ledson and Kenny via comparisons with other England age group players who have played in their position, but that still makes it difficult to conclude if they are just good in their age group or have that something extra .
Sorry, it still turned out to be an overlong response and drifted away from your original question.
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