Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
I didn't see the game, how did Denny play? And is it right he's only 15
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Its all absolutely brilliant to see these lads come doing well at youth level and the lads out on loan doing fantasticly but with my negative Everton head on at the moment i cant really see any of them getting a chance in the first team anytime soon.
Contrary to common belief Martinez does not really bring young players through (suprise suprise a myth about our manager).
Barkley & Stones were brought into the side by him but they are both rediculous talents and had already made steps towards the first team before Martinez arrived.
Galloway was a product of Baines & Oviedo injured and Garbutt is stalling on a contract so i cant play these 3 left backs so i will have to put these in. And even after Galloway has performed fantasticly he lost his place to an average Oviedo and a Leighton Baines struggling to get over an injury. What does that do to his confidence.
He left Browning sat around twiddling his thumbs all last season when he was at the age that he needs game time wether it be with a loan or some cup time. He got neither.
Everyone remebers WEst Ham at home last season were he put Tony Hibbert in at left back ahead of Garbutt
You have your likes of Ledsons, Walsh's, Kennys, Connellys, all doing well out on loan but when they come back they will be no better off apart from abit more experienced for the under21's.
Then you look at the likes of Dowell, Brewster & Broadhead who have all been performing well and not even a sniff of a place on the bench (especially Dowell).
He has a squad that is too full of senior players that it blocks the way for the kids to come through! Even if Hibbert, Osman, Gibson, Pienaar, McGeady leave in the summer.
Look at Ledson & Walsh, even if we lose our first choice centre mid pairing of McCarthy & Barry, they have Besic & Cleverley blocking there path, and i bet he would put Barkley or Stones in there if the them too were missing.
What would happen if Lukaku, Kone & Naisse were injured? I bet he would go with Mirallas or Barkley up there!
My worry with the money coming in is we go and buy 4 or 5 10-20million quid players were it is not needed!
Pochetino at southampton kept his squad small, he got an injury to a first choice player in most positions his backup was a youngster- Chambers, Shaw, Reid, Gallacher, Ward Prowse. He has it the same at Spurs too.
have to agree, another reason i want him booted out. as you say the likes of pochettino (or van gaal or koeman etc) would all have used some of our youngsters if they had them.
....whilst accepting the principle, a word of caution that it's a massive step up to top flight first team football. Youngsters have to be special to come through and take their chance when it comes along.
I agree with this tbh, we have good young players that could have played in some games this season. We played the lowest ranked team in the football league and still didn't start any academy kids.Its all absolutely brilliant to see these lads come doing well at youth level and the lads out on loan doing fantasticly but with my negative Everton head on at the moment i cant really see any of them getting a chance in the first team anytime soon.
Contrary to common belief Martinez does not really bring young players through (suprise suprise a myth about our manager).
Barkley & Stones were brought into the side by him but they are both rediculous talents and had already made steps towards the first team before Martinez arrived.
Galloway was a product of Baines & Oviedo injured and Garbutt is stalling on a contract so i cant play these 3 left backs so i will have to put these in. And even after Galloway has performed fantasticly he lost his place to an average Oviedo and a Leighton Baines struggling to get over an injury. What does that do to his confidence.
He left Browning sat around twiddling his thumbs all last season when he was at the age that he needs game time wether it be with a loan or some cup time. He got neither.
Everyone remebers WEst Ham at home last season were he put Tony Hibbert in at left back ahead of Garbutt
You have your likes of Ledsons, Walsh's, Kennys, Connellys, all doing well out on loan but when they come back they will be no better off apart from abit more experienced for the under21's.
Then you look at the likes of Dowell, Brewster & Broadhead who have all been performing well and not even a sniff of a place on the bench (especially Dowell).
He has a squad that is too full of senior players that it blocks the way for the kids to come through! Even if Hibbert, Osman, Gibson, Pienaar, McGeady leave in the summer.
Look at Ledson & Walsh, even if we lose our first choice centre mid pairing of McCarthy & Barry, they have Besic & Cleverley blocking there path, and i bet he would put Barkley or Stones in there if the them too were missing.
What would happen if Lukaku, Kone & Naisse were injured? I bet he would go with Mirallas or Barkley up there!
My worry with the money coming in is we go and buy 4 or 5 10-20million quid players were it is not needed!
Pochetino at southampton kept his squad small, he got an injury to a first choice player in most positions his backup was a youngster- Chambers, Shaw, Reid, Gallacher, Ward Prowse. He has it the same at Spurs too.
....whilst accepting the principle, a word of caution that it's a massive step up to top flight first team football. Youngsters have to be special to come through and take their chance when it comes along.
I enjoyed watching the stream of the game last night. As I always seem to indicate it is a very young team and always worth noting, primarily as a pat on the back for the academy staff but also to add a degree of caution over some of the players. In all likelihood if the players were really special they wouldn't be playing in this team as under 18's. Harsh as that sounds, it will be borne our by the information below.
Players who were eligible but didn't play; Evans, Davies, Holland (England duty). Feeney, Foulds, Dowell (considered under 21 players primarily and needed at home). Donuhue, Walsh, Connolly (currently out on loan in most cases to league clubs).
If you take those players you could set an outfield 9 up as follows
Feeney Foulds Connolly
Holland Davies Walsh Donuhue
Evans Dowell
As regards the game and the performances I as oddly impressed with Salt Lake. For an MLS side to be competitive with a PL youth side is grea testament and bodes well for the league. Their centre forward looked lively.
As regards our players. I liked the goalkeeper but looks a little small. Yates at right back I thought played well and positioned himself correctly. Lees took his goal well and has a lot of potential but a bit like Yates hasn't kicked on that much this season. Yarney I really like. It's funny when you watch a player and are really impressed but the club don't seem as keen. I would rate him more highly than Feeney, but Feeney obviously has something about him and wonder if they are just waiting for him to fill out and feel he has the defensive basics better. Either way I like Yarney, he must be 6ft 2 already and looks a real leader and organiser at the back. I hope he kicks on in the under 21's next season. Harrington filled in well at left back, but you can see his natural position is midfield.
As for the midfield 3. Denny I tried to watch closely. To be in the squad at 15 is a big plus for him. I thought he handled himself well and looks a really big lad. Also has good technique, but needs to develop his confidence a little. Definitely one to watch though. I was impressed with Kiersey's energy levels and he has benefitted from a regular run and players (as named above) moving beyond the under 18's. Unfortunately there is a lot of competition ahead of him, in all likelihood too much.
Baningame was very impressive and a stand out man for me. Lots of energy, loves a tackle, a great athlete good technique and you can tell he enjoys playing the anchor man role. We seem to produce lots of central midfielders as an academy and he looks a bit of a gem.
As for the forward players, the wide right (name alludes me) worked very hard but s lacking quality. Broadhead has been the biggest beneficiary of game time this season. Last season he hardly got a look in and I'd have described him how I have done some of the fringe players in this team. It's al the more reason why people should never write players off as development comes at different ages.
I was very impressed with him. He has a turn of pace, skill and confidence and you can see an eye for a goal. My worry would be there is a lack of pace there but his goal was fantastic. While we produce midfielders very well it's ben a long time since we brought thought a tricky winger and he is probably the biggest stand out in that role since Osman. I would love to see him kick on as he is clearly a clinical finisher.
Brewster worked the front line hard. He's a big lad who runs in behind and has always been a composed finisher. He looks to have everything. The only nagging doubt is we currently have Byrne, Duffus & Dyson playing up top for the under 21's. None of them are anywhere near the first team squad (and unlikely ever will be). Yet Brewster is not starting games ahead of them at a higher level? If he is to make the grade he needs to dislodge all of the above. As I've said though he runs the channels very well.
Anyway a very positive result and performance.
I enjoyed watching the stream of the game last night. As I always seem to indicate it is a very young team and always worth noting, primarily as a pat on the back for the academy staff but also to add a degree of caution over some of the players. In all likelihood if the players were really special they wouldn't be playing in this team as under 18's. Harsh as that sounds, it will be borne our by the information below.
Players who were eligible but didn't play; Evans, Davies, Holland (England duty). Feeney, Foulds, Dowell (considered under 21 players primarily and needed at home). Donuhue, Walsh, Connolly (currently out on loan in most cases to league clubs).
If you take those players you could set an outfield 9 up as follows
Feeney Foulds Connolly
Holland Davies Walsh Donuhue
Evans Dowell
As regards the game and the performances I as oddly impressed with Salt Lake. For an MLS side to be competitive with a PL youth side is grea testament and bodes well for the league. Their centre forward looked lively.
As regards our players. I liked the goalkeeper but looks a little small. Yates at right back I thought played well and positioned himself correctly. Lees took his goal well and has a lot of potential but a bit like Yates hasn't kicked on that much this season. Yarney I really like. It's funny when you watch a player and are really impressed but the club don't seem as keen. I would rate him more highly than Feeney, but Feeney obviously has something about him and wonder if they are just waiting for him to fill out and feel he has the defensive basics better. Either way I like Yarney, he must be 6ft 2 already and looks a real leader and organiser at the back. I hope he kicks on in the under 21's next season. Harrington filled in well at left back, but you can see his natural position is midfield.
As for the midfield 3. Denny I tried to watch closely. To be in the squad at 15 is a big plus for him. I thought he handled himself well and looks a really big lad. Also has good technique, but needs to develop his confidence a little. Definitely one to watch though. I was impressed with Kiersey's energy levels and he has benefitted from a regular run and players (as named above) moving beyond the under 18's. Unfortunately there is a lot of competition ahead of him, in all likelihood too much.
Baningame was very impressive and a stand out man for me. Lots of energy, loves a tackle, a great athlete good technique and you can tell he enjoys playing the anchor man role. We seem to produce lots of central midfielders as an academy and he looks a bit of a gem.
As for the forward players, the wide right (name alludes me) worked very hard but s lacking quality. Broadhead has been the biggest beneficiary of game time this season. Last season he hardly got a look in and I'd have described him how I have done some of the fringe players in this team. It's al the more reason why people should never write players off as development comes at different ages.
I was very impressed with him. He has a turn of pace, skill and confidence and you can see an eye for a goal. My worry would be there is a lack of pace there but his goal was fantastic. While we produce midfielders very well it's ben a long time since we brought thought a tricky winger and he is probably the biggest stand out in that role since Osman. I would love to see him kick on as he is clearly a clinical finisher.
Brewster worked the front line hard. He's a big lad who runs in behind and has always been a composed finisher. He looks to have everything. The only nagging doubt is we currently have Byrne, Duffus & Dyson playing up top for the under 21's. None of them are anywhere near the first team squad (and unlikely ever will be). Yet Brewster is not starting games ahead of them at a higher level? If he is to make the grade he needs to dislodge all of the above. As I've said though he runs the channels very well.
Anyway a very positive result and performance.
have to agree, another reason i want him booted out. as you say the likes of pochettino (or van gaal or koeman etc) would all have used some of our youngsters if they had them.
Koeman hasn't really developed any youngsters at Southampton to be fair.
.....I really appreciate your insight. I agree that it is an achievement for Denny, so he must be a stand out at his own age. I also agree about Baningame, hard not to see the potential he has. Slight difference over your view that Brewster is a 'big lad'. I see the pace but not the size although he makes the most of what he has. Sheedy plays him in an isolated position but he has the ability to work on scraps and provide an out ball for defenders. Perhaps that's why he hasn't yet stepped up an age, although he has been playing open-age with Stockport. As you say, he runs the channels really well and must be a handful for any defender as he's always on the move.
.....I really appreciate your insight. I agree that it is an achievement for Denny, so he must be a stand out at his own age. I also agree about Baningame, hard not to see the potential he has. Slight difference over your view that Brewster is a 'big lad'. I see the pace but not the size although he makes the most of what he has. Sheedy plays him in an isolated position but he has the ability to work on scraps and provide an out ball for defenders. Perhaps that's why he hasn't yet stepped up an age, although he has been playing open-age with Stockport. As you say, he runs the channels really well and must be a handful for any defender as he's always on the move.