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2019/20 Fabian Delph

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The thing I can't help but wonder is if Delph thinks to himself, "I've got trophies in my cabinet, which is more than any of this lot have ever accomplished. So if I want to yell at my teammates and talk down them, that's my right. That's what being a 'winner' is all about." Given the fact that he was a bit-time player at City and won those trophies primarily on the backs of the greatness of other players and coaches, that doesn't sit right with me.

Regardless of the incident, his impact on the field for us has been minimal at best. For the record, I was never keen on his signing. To me, this should serve as a reminder that next time we look at signing someone like a Delph, Rooney, Eto'o, etc., we should remember that being part of massively talented and successful teams doesn't mean you can just transfer that success over to another club. If the best reason you can come up with for signing someone is that they'll provide "leadership" and a "winning mentality" rather than on-the-pitch attributes, then it's best to swerve.
Don't think you can mention him in the same breath as Rooney or Eto'o who were both top players in their day.Sadly just not their day with us.
 
Keane was the skipper though.
That's who should be dishing it out.
We've lacked a proper captain since Dave Watson probably.
I don't think it should matter if you have an armband. You should be given the right to pull someone up for not doing their job but you need to ensure you are doing your own every week to back it up. Delph has spent most of the time on the treatment table and when hes played not pulled up any trees.

Right about leaders, its a massive issue. Listening to some of the old pro's from successful teams the main group of players use to run the team and the dressing room and the best managers encouraged it.
 
Don't think you can mention him in the same breath as Rooney or Eto'o who were both top players in their day.Sadly just not their day with us.


Was thinking that yself.

Rooney and Eto’o were major factors in their clubs winning trophies.

Delph was there to make up the numbers.

If he tries being Billy Big Boots by boasting about his medals again, Holgate or DCL should tell him they have never played in a team which was relegated from the PL.
 

I've addressed this in a later post. Yes, there's no dispute that Liverpool were more energetic than us etc, but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone to say the players were strolling round, they don't care etc.

I don't think it's us that have to be forgiving in this instance, it's the people using the wrong words who need to have a rethink. The point is, I can absolutely see why a player would take offence at being told they didn't try if they did. It shouldn't be up to them to work out what someone actually means by that.

Yeah I don't necessarily think they are lazy, just crap.

Which is probably worse...
 
Was thinking that yself.

Rooney and Eto’o were major factors in their clubs winning trophies.

Delph was there to make up the numbers.

If he tries being Billy Big Boots by boasting about his medals again, Holgate or DCL should tell him they have never played in a team which was relegated from the PL.

To be fair neither has Delph.
 
Yeah I don't necessarily think they are lazy, just crap.

Which is probably worse...
Exactly. And this is what I find so bizarre. Every single individual player thread is full of people saying they're useless, should be playing in league one, we'd be better picking a kid instead of them. Then we lose a game and everybody's incredulous that they weren't better than their counterpart and says it can only be because of lack of effort.
 


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