Farhad Moshiri

[bring the ghost on]

we had a group of players easily capable of getting top 6 when he arrived.

When you finish 11th two seasons in a row, with the dross in this league (we’re higher up this season FFS), that shows there is huge underinvestment in the squad.

The money the top 6 have spent in recent years (and spent well) has left us in absolutely dire need of investment. It’s just a great shame that we’ve squandered so much money in the last few years.

 

[havrey0123]

Moshiri is like kenright, he has no business acumen what so ever.
Look at the top 6 and how the owners run their club and look how it is run here.
Forget about size of clubs etc just from a business prospective how the clubs are run on and off the field, there's a massive difference.

Moshiri and kenright may be good at making money in other lines of work, but football isn't their game. Moshiris comments have been shocking, even on panaroma he came across as a ****, could you imagine levy coming across with those comments.

 

[havrey0123]

When you finish 11th two seasons in a row, with the dross in this league (we’re higher up this season FFS), that shows there is huge underinvestment in the squad.

The money the top 6 have spent in recent years (and spent well) has left us in absolutely dire need of investment. It’s just a great shame that we’ve squandered so much money in the last few years.

Over the last 3 years the net spend has been close to £150m. It's more then most even some of the top 6.

 

[toffeejack]

Yeah mate honestly I carnt see us building naff all or winning trophies now , money wasted on dialbolical players who don’t care for the club

Umm, you do realise we're not going to have this exact same squad until the end of time?

This is a bit like the end of Martinez's last season in my eyes. We sacked Roberto before the last home game of the season, in part due to the fact that we simply didn't want to end the season at home with intense and inevitable vitriol around the place – that game would have been quite nasty had Roberto been there.

As much as the players haven't performed as they should have this season, I don't want us to have to spend the last home game of the season expressing our anger. Farhad, spare the fans and the club having to endure an incredibly toxic atmosphere and sack him before the Saints game. Give the last two to Unsworth, like we did against Norwich. Let us go out with heightened spirits, at least.

Seeing as Unsworth lost 4-1 to saints I'd probably prefer allardyce for the game.

 

[davek]

Was this when we got into the top six when spurs weren't one of the best teams in the league? Or when man u didn't have one of the best managers in the world? We may of had a team capable of getting top six back then just a shame we didn't have a manager capable of it.

Let's have a look at the teams we played in this last season under Martinez. The two semi finals that you cling too, that justify your love of the man shall we.

League cup:

2nd round, Barnsley away
3rd round, reading away
4th round, Norwich home
5th round, Middlesbrough away
Semi's, Manchester city...and we're out!

F.A. cup:
3rd round, dag & red home
4th round, Carlisle away
5th round, Bournemouth away
6th round, Chelsea at home
Semi's, Manchester united...and we're out!

Not exactly moyes 09 cup run was it. The only team we beat that was any good was Chelsea and they were in the middle of their worst season in about 20 years. Any other time we played decent teams aka city and United we were beat. Through stupid decisions made by the manager. Bringing kone on when we were under the kosh against city and needed a out ball, while lennon was on the bench. Or letting lukaku be our penalty taker when he can't take penalties.

Koeman last season were embarrassing in the cups I'll give you that but he did play rotated squads in the cups. Still no excuse for me there.

This season league cup:
3rd round, Sunderland home
4th round, Chelsea away

F.A. cup:
3rd round, liverpool away

4th round tie away from home for unworths first game and a 3rd round tie at a ground we haven't won at in 20 years.

Moshiri isn't supposed to be running the club he is supposed to see us financially stable. It's the board, chairman and CEO who all run the club. The only thing i feel Moshiri is guilty of is leaving the crap from the old regime in charge, especially with the way kenwrights health has been.

Your problem for me is simple, you have a let's say strange obsession with Martinez and you hate anyone that has crossed him. Baines who has been nothing but a model blue because he spoke out about him, Moshiri because he sacked him.

Are you kidding? You underline the lack of quality of opposition to Everton in two cup runs apart from facing one "under performing elite team" as valid criticism of a manager who took an ale house team to a cup final win over the most expensively assembled team in European football! Unreal.

And you're defo kidding if you think that anyone other than that carpet bagger is making the fundamental decisions of changing the structure of the club from manager to manager + DoF (and bringing in a scout to carry out that role), of employing Koeman - the greatest failure in Everton managerial history - and of the employment of the laughable Allardyce. No one took those crucial decisions other than Farhad Moshiri. We all know it and to deny it is to offer support to a man who needs to get his act together completely if he's to survive here.

 

[mahermi1]

We have spent a lot more money since Moshiri came here, you can't knock that. What you can point the finger at is what we have spent the money on, but surely that is down to the managers, DOF and the scouts at our club, not Moshiri.

 

[davek]

When you finish 11th two seasons in a row, with the dross in this league (we’re higher up this season FFS), that shows there is huge underinvestment in the squad.

The money the top 6 have spent in recent years (and spent well) has left us in absolutely dire need of investment. It’s just a great shame that we’ve squandered so much money in the last few years.

It's a shame we have a billionaire who commits f.a. to the squad. All he's done is failed to oversee the massive player sale and tv money of the last two seasons. That's been Moshiri's contribution. The 'kin beaut.

 

[davek]

We have spent a lot more money since Moshiri came here, you can't knock that. What you can point the finger at is what we have spent the money on, but surely that is down to the managers, DOF and the scouts at our club, not Moshiri.

Extra money that arrived at Everton since Moshiri came in that would have been available if he hadn't arrived: £375M

 

[GwladysBlue]

It's a shame we have a billionaire who commits f.a. to the squad. All he's done is failed to oversee the massive player sale and tv money of the last two seasons. That's been Moshiri's contribution. The 'kin beaut.

I genuinely think Moshiri came in with good intentions of wanting us to improve. We should be better for the investment he has made, but it will be telling if he keeps Fat Sam.

I’m starting to think your theory about accepting mediocrity whilst waiting for the stadium and loading the debt onto the club whilst he makes a killing is true.

 

[Gladystweet]

I genuinely think Moshiri came in with good intentions of wanting us to improve. We should be better for the investment he has made, but it will be telling if he keeps Fat Sam.

I’m starting to think your theory about accepting mediocrity whilst waiting for the stadium and loading the debt onto the club whilst he makes a killing is true.

Yup. I've never doubted his intentions. But having them, doesn't mean he's doing the right things.
He's obviously new to this owning a club lark, but imagine having the old regime still around offering advice...

I hope he's learning quick, cos he's got some massive decisions to make.

 

[Khalekan]

That's completely off the mark.

We haven't just tread water, we are in a far worse position now than we were when he arrived. We were competing for a trophy when he arrived for one thing, and though the league position was poor we had a group of players easily capable of getting top 6 - a point they proved a couple of seasons before that in spades. Now we are miles off that point. We have regressed alarmingly and their is no sense that spending will solve anything (and I dont believe there will be any such repetition of the levels of spending we've seen...spending cash generated by player sales and tv revenue increases, btw). We have no identity or style and the morale of the club's supporters is close to crisis levels.

Moshiri has been toxic for this club. The lack of rigorous governance is down to him. He calls the shots ultimately and there can be no hiding behind any nonsense about 'getting shut of the deadwood before he can get things right'...he's to blame for this mess, no one else.

Top post, Dave.

 

[Deckard2049]

When you look at who will be, and who is likely to be, relegated this season they’re all clubs who are lacking in direction and lacking in a consistent identity. West Brom, Stoke and Southampton have all struggled to define themselves in recent years and will all probably pay the ultimate price. They’ve all lost what made them successful and consistent performers in the premier league the last decade and all clearly lack direction from the top. Put simply, they knew what they were about, from top to bottom, just like we did under Moyes. No, that’s not me longing for a Moyes type figure to return, just a longing for knowing what my club was actually about and what we want to be.

Unfortunately to me it looks like we’re very much in danger of something similar happening to us which is happening to those aforementioned clubs. We’ve had a warning this season and need to learn from it. Unfortunately with Kenwright around doing his bits, Walsh and Sam still around and Moshiri seemingly possessing no real football knowledge (and embarrassing himself with Jim White and voodoo) it’s hard to see how things improve.

 

[The binman chronicles]

That's completely off the mark.

We haven't just tread water, we are in a far worse position now than we were when he arrived. We were competing for a trophy when he arrived for one thing, and though the league position was poor we had a group of players easily capable of getting top 6 - a point they proved a couple of seasons before that in spades. Now we are miles off that point. We have regressed alarmingly and their is no sense that spending will solve anything (and I dont believe there will be any such repetition of the levels of spending we've seen...spending cash generated by player sales and tv revenue increases, btw). We have no identity or style and the morale of the club's supporters is close to crisis levels.

Moshiri has been toxic for this club. The lack of rigorous governance is down to him. He calls the shots ultimately and there can be no hiding behind any nonsense about 'getting shut of the deadwood before he can get things right'...he's to blame for this mess, no one else.

The league table suggests otherwise. It's not his fault that millions were wasted on dross. And anyone who thought we would suddenly become world beaters off the back of it are deluded.

I said at the time the fact we were spending and a hope of a new stadium might be the best it ever gets and that could still be the case. If we keep spending then it is more likely we will be taken seriously instead of a club who have had short term splurge (Villa/Leeds/Sunderland/Newcastle etc.), but we are still at the mercy that there are 6 other teams that can attract and pay more. (spurs as the exception on paying more)

There is no magic wand here.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Over the last 3 years the net spend has been close to £150m. It's more then most even some of the top 6.

Exactly.

That’s why I said it’s a great shame we’ve blown it.

 

[bring the ghost on]

It's a shame we have a billionaire who commits f.a. to the squad. All he's done is failed to oversee the massive player sale and tv money of the last two seasons. That's been Moshiri's contribution. The 'kin beaut.

I agree, but to spin it that we were easily a top 6 squad before he arrived is misleading.