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Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

  • Pleased

    Votes: 111 7.9%

  • Disappointed

    Votes: 1,295 92.1%
  • Total voters
    1,406
Carlito said:
On the one hand, I like how you hold the club to account for accepting mediocrity for decades.

However, you've also now spent seven years celebrating one manager finishing even fifther than another.
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He served up in the Camelot Season the best football and best results we had since the 80s.

FACT.
 

davek said:
A better manager of Everton than Ancelotti. That's a fact.

First season comparison: we played better football with Martinez; we got better results than with Ancelotti.
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Results?

What I linked shows you Ancelotti has earned better results (win %) as Everton manager.

Martinez also took a very settled, competitive Moyes team that finished 7th, 7th and 6th and he took them to 5th, 11th, 11th. That 5th was novelty factor from Moyes to Martinez and a very decent, good side.

Ancelotti took over a pit of misery after Koeman/Silva. We were 16th, just three points clear of the drop zone. This is his first full season, we're currently 6th.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Results?

What I linked shows you Ancelotti has earned better results (win %) as Everton manager.

Martinez also took a very settled, competitive Moyes team that finished 7th, 7th and 6th and he took them to 5th, 11th, 11th. That 5th was novelty factor from Moyes to Martinez and a very decent, good side.

Ancelotti took over a pit of misery after Koeman/Silva. We were 16th, just three points clear of the drop zone. This is his first full season, we're currently 6th.
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The achievement for Martinez was getting Everton to play football on the deck again. I for one never thiught the players Moyes bought could play possession based football, but he came in and made them belive in themselves.

Ancelotti: no argument from me that he isn't one of the greats, but he's been pragmatic here and adopted a cautious approach with the players we have. He's a different beast - a pragmatist to Martinez's idealist.

It's chalk and cheese, I suppose. But no one in their right mind would swap any PL season we've had with that first one RM presided over.
 
4737carlin said:
Carlo was unlucky enough to follow Marco, while Roberto was very VERY lucky in following David Moyso and his well drilled squad
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Too drilled. He had to relax them and persuade them they could play.

Yes, it crumbled from the middle of season two, but I admire what he tried to achieve here. With £200M to spend he'd have done a lot better than Koeman, Silva and possibly Ancelotti.
 
davek said:
A better manager of Everton than Ancelotti. That's a fact.

First season comparison: we played better football with Martinez; we got better results than with Ancelotti.
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I'd say that the 2007/08 team was the best of the PL era, while we're on the subject.

Same goal difference as Camelot that season, funnily enough.
 

davek said:
Too drilled. He had to relax them and persuade them they could play.

Yes, it crumbled from the middle of season two, but I admire what he tried to achieve here. With £200M to spend he'd have done a lot better than Koeman, Silva and possibly Ancelotti.
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Yes you are right he stopped doing defensive set piece drills. Madness. Utter boring sideways football from Bobby Brown Shoes.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Results?

What I linked shows you Ancelotti has earned better results (win %) as Everton manager.

Martinez also took a very settled, competitive Moyes team that finished 7th, 7th and 6th and he took them to 5th, 11th, 11th. That 5th was novelty factor from Moyes to Martinez and a very decent, good side.

Ancelotti took over a pit of misery after Koeman/Silva. We were 16th, just three points clear of the drop zone. This is his first full season, we're currently 6th.
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Tbf, I think this is an over simplification, and if that was genuinely the case, then Moyes should have equally been much more successful taking over title winning United.

While its true that Martinez took over a Moyes team that had been more consistent over a period of time before, the squad was in need of an overhaul, and with no money, I'm sure that played a part in Moyes decision to jump ship and take the opportunity at United, just in the same way Ferguson knew his squad needed a rebuild, and it was the right time to leave. I won't say either of those decisions were selfish so to speak, but they definitely didn't leave either team in the healthiest of places.

Its true that Ancelotti has also taken over a poor squad, and this is not a critique of him or us in the slightest. This is just to address the continued disrespect of Martinez which as far as I'm concerned, has nearly always been vitriolic and over the top.

I'm delighted we now how Ancelotti, and literally every Everton fan should be. If you're not, I question your motives. I definitely think he is the perfect fit, and given our time and support, I am convinced he will take us forward.
 
davek said:
Too drilled. He had to relax them and persuade them they could play.

Yes, it crumbled from the middle of season two, but I admire what he tried to achieve here. With £200M to spend he'd have done a lot better than Koeman, Silva and possibly Ancelotti.
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In no lifetime, whether this one or the next would Martinez ever do anything remotely close to Ancelotti as a manager.

EVER.
 

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