bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
I do still wonder about how this all came about in the first instance. I'm just shooting the breeze here and (admittedly) straddling the world between speculation and conspiracy, but it could be suggested that the Moshiri acquisition is just a by-product of the Arsenal power struggle. It's my suspicion that Moshiri's role in the Gunners was always as a proxy purchaser of shares on behalf of Usmanov (who, let's face it, is the ultimate source of whatever wealth our new man has). In short: I have an uneasy feeling the Everton shares have been purchased as leverage in Usmanov's ongoing struggle against Kroenke. In what way? He (Usmanov - and despite his 'in it for the long haul' statements re AFC) has a possible exit route from Arsenal if he chooses to take the rest of the Everton stake up and cut and run. That would have to be a major concern to other Arsenal shareholders who dont know what Kroenke's long term plans are for Arsenal - and his fortunes have been inextricably tied up with Wenger's stewardship of the club, that's hurtling toward a conclusion in the next 12 months or so.
It is speculation, quite obviously, and EFC are hardly a club in any fit state right now to be a horse that Usmanov immediately jumps onto without massive infrastructural certainties over the stadium. But I worry that Moshiri's involvement is all enmeshed in that wider power struggle and that we might see inaction here because of it. The obvious lack of a stadium plan from what we gather from commentary so far and from Anderson is a concern that highlights this fear. I wouldn't be too certain that this is an orthodox takeover leading to a future in which we progress even incrementally.
I dont know about the last part pete. I think he knows how to protect cash that is created by others, not make it. That's his stock in trade. And let's face it, the Usmanov empire was bludgeoned out of the old Soviet Union's old Republics by war lords (old CP apparatchiks, yes, but war lords nevertheless in the aftermath of the Soviet Union's collapse) not created using brain power but by former KGB muscle.
You have to ask yourself how business savvy these people really can be.
Dave you have absolutely no understanding of that situation at Arsenal which is given away by so many wrong statments and assumptions your making
1. Moshiri never independantly held any shares in Arsenal, neither did Usmanov btw, they both held them in the form of a 50% share each had in the company they used to make share purchases - R&W Holdings, so how was any form of Proxy buying of shares going on their - as the company made the share purchases why exactly was Moshiri needed?
2. Usmanov has gained absolutely zero more influence at Arsenal by buying the shares in real terms, he and Moshiri through the company co - held the shares anyway at 30% so no net gain for him.
3. Asenal doesnt have any other shareholders - Kroenke owns 67% Usmanov 30% mate, so which shareholders are going to be concerned exactly by this and apply pressure?
4. Kroenke doesnt have long term plans? he has publicly stated he has and that the club will pass to his children as an inheritance after hes gone, sounds pretty long term planning there
5. we havent had a stadium announcement within a day of him taking over = he has no plans for a stadium, really?
6. You do know that Usmanov made an absolute fortune by investing in facebook in 2009 when it was a company that was barely breaking even mate, yeah he has no brain power at all and must have got the KGB to sort that one out, how they knew that company was going to explode into what it became is strange though, also invested early in twitter, in alibaba, turned megafon from a relatively small company into russias second largest mobile company, re-nationalised gazprom from the oligarchs who had asset stripped it and got it all back and led to it coming back into semi state control again which wa shugely beneficial to the russian people, but yeah he is just a muscle man and Moshiri who worked alongside him and advised on all these deals is just a bag acrrying accountant
7. just a little fuirtehr bit about them having no brain power - they bought 100m shares in apple in 2013 for around the 50 dollar a share mark, sold them 6 months later at around the 85 dollar mark, whatever you think of them mate, they are absolutely plugged into the tech markets and have made shrwed purchase or investment one after another.
so how business savvy are they, even ingoring anything yu feel is tainted by being in Russia, they have made billions in investments in companies that have nothing to do with that time