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Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

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    Votes: 107 7.7%
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    Votes: 1,290 92.3%

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There are no other Arsenal shareholders of any note I don't think. Believe Usmanov now holds 30.1% and Kroenke 67.something%. The extra holding doesn't really give Usmanov any more or less of a hold.

Dave.
I would say that Moshiri jumping ship and leaving Arsenal for Everton has more to do with ambition and the huge money flowing into football than anything else.

At Arsenal he was the junior partner to Usanov and he in turn cannot get control of that club which is controlled by Kroenke, so Moshiri had an investment but had little or no control is how this investment was run.
At Everton he will be the main man, I have no doubt he will bring in other investors to share the cost and the risk and also hopefully the benefits.

Moshiri has obviously been ultra successful in his life and is backing himself that he can turn Everton into a hugely successful club again. If he can manage that the increase in value of the club from success on the field and increased commercial and TV revenues off it could give him a gain that would make the current value of the club at 200m look like petty cash.

Like I said, Idle speculation on my part but there's a lot of unanswered questions over the structure of the 'takeover that never was' here.

This is why we need Moshiri front and centre and rolling out a plan of action. The longer that drags on before he does will just ratchet up fears that his capital has been parked in a PL club that is safe enough and gaining value, as per the feller he took shares off.
 
@The Esk do you think we should be looking at his portfolio for potential sponsorship deals moving forward? I know his involvement in MegaFon, and was joking about the MegaFon arena for a new stadium - but realistically what exposure would that give if its a Russian mobile carrier.

I understand his appointment must mean a massive improvement in commercial terms - sponsorship deals etc, just wondering if there might be any legs in his involvement with other elements of his portfolio. IE City and Etihad.

There's a logic to that but what value for Megafon would there be in sponsoring a Premier League side or stadium?

The Premier League is a global product, the big bucks in sponsorship terms are to be found from global brands.
 
There's a logic to that but what value for Megan would there be in sponsoring a Premier League side or stadium?

The Premier League is a global product, the big bucks in sponsorship terms are to be found from global brands.

Yep - thats near to what i was thinking to be honest. Would be looking to more global brands in his portfolio if any.
 
Like I said, Idle speculation on my part but there's a lot of unanswered questions over the structure of the 'takeover that never was' here.

This is why we need Moshiri front and centre and rolling out a plan of action. The longer that drags on before he does will just ratchet up fears that his capital has been parked in a PL club that is safe enough and gaining value, as per the feller he took shares off.

While i do agree it will be nice to hear from him and see what he has planned or would like to complete. Does this actually happen? off the top of my head i don't recall it anywhere else.
 
......the indications are that Moshiri was introduced to Everton and Kenwright via David Dein. I understand the conspiracy theories regarding Usmanov but perhaps Moshiri really liked the thought of being the custodian of EFC. Unless we are told otherwise I suggest we should all embrace the news.
Embrace it, yes. But let's keep an open mind. And let's have that full statement. Wr've had less so far about this than we had about Earl's 23% stake.
 

While i do agree it will be nice to hear from him and see what he has planned or would like to complete. Does this actually happen? off the top of my head i don't recall it anywhere else.
He's effectively the new owner. I think it is appropriate, yes. I cant recall any other major club takeover when it was briefly announced and then complete silence.
 
He's effectively the new owner. I think it is appropriate, yes. I cant recall any other major club takeover when it was briefly announced and then complete silence.

I do agree with that, there can't be silence and i expect some sort of release or presser for this in the very near future.

Just not sure how much of the "laying out plans" we can expect mate.
 
There's no doubt that Usmanov and Moshiri have wished to increase their investment exposure to the Premier League for a long time

However they have to do that separately, as indeed they already do with other investments in common industries.

That's my point really Esk, irrespective of what happens at Arsenal we get proper investment......
 

I do still wonder about how this all came about in the first instance. I'm just shooting the breeze here and (admittedly) straddling the world between speculation and conspiracy, but it could be suggested that the Moshiri acquisition is just a by-product of the Arsenal power struggle. It's my suspicion that Moshiri's role in the Gunners was always as a proxy purchaser of shares on behalf of Usmanov (who, let's face it, is the ultimate source of whatever wealth our new man has). In short: I have an uneasy feeling the Everton shares have been purchased as leverage in Usmanov's ongoing struggle against Kroenke. In what way? He (Usmanov - and despite his 'in it for the long haul' statements re AFC) has a possible exit route from Arsenal if he chooses to take the rest of the Everton stake up and cut and run. That would have to be a major concern to other Arsenal shareholders who dont know what Kroenke's long term plans are for Arsenal - and his fortunes have been inextricably tied up with Wenger's stewardship of the club, that's hurtling toward a conclusion in the next 12 months or so.

It is speculation, quite obviously, and EFC are hardly a club in any fit state right now to be a horse that Usmanov immediately jumps onto without massive infrastructural certainties over the stadium. But I worry that Moshiri's involvement is all enmeshed in that wider power struggle and that we might see inaction here because of it. The obvious lack of a stadium plan from what we gather from commentary so far and from Anderson is a concern that highlights this fear. I wouldn't be too certain that this is an orthodox takeover leading to a future in which we progress even incrementally.

Just a couple of things with that. In spite of the RAWK laughing bandwagon increasing evidence is being presented to show that the 1.3 billion Moshiri has in his own right is a conservative estimate, as mainly American firms who estimate them are in the dark about finances in Russia. he is very wealthy and probably has significant connections and shares that are probably a little tied up. However he does have huge influence, connections and ability to acquire funding off his own back without Usmanov.

Usmanov is the elephant in the room. They work very closely together and whatever he does will be a huge game changer. Moshiri's wealth takes us potentially to a new level (similar to Liverpool but probably a bit beyond them) but by no means to the pinnacle, Usmanov is the game changer. While we get laughed at for mentioning Usmanov it is actually really stupid not to consider him, especially given how closely him and Moshiri work together, and own companies together.

As I've said earlier in the thread, to me there are 3 possibilities;

1) Tactical play for Arsenal. Usmanov wants to pressure Kroenke. (At best) he gets his colleague to buy a rival club) (at worst for Arsenal, he starts funnelling his money into another club via him). he hopes this creates enough pressure on Kroenke to relent and sell.

2) Moshiri flies the nest. With the good will of Usmanov Moshiri feels it best he acquires his own football club and with Usmanov's blessing goes to buy a new club. Their partnership in football is broken and both build their respective teams.

3) Usmanov has grown frustrated and wants to move elsewhere. He uses Moshiri as a proxy to buy shares, and when the stadium is due to be built probably looks to move in together then. Perhaps he didn't do it outright as he feels selling all their shares in one go would be too bold a move. Maybe Kroenke would offer him a lower value if he was bloc selling his and Moshiri's shares? Alternatively they may have felt rushed to act to stop someone else acquiring the club, and the time taken for them both to sell their shares wouldn't have allowed them to do it.

At present we don't know, and for the foreseeable won't know. I think it's unlikely it's 1 though. Even if Kroenke sells (which he won't, he has openly said it's an investment for the family, and it would be a stupid time to sell a PL club) and Usmanov acquires Arsenal it would be a silly move for Moshiri to sell up as he has a great deal at Everton. It also sounds like Moshiri has been looking at Everton for a little while. The plan to flush out Kroenke would seem to me to be a bad strategy and they would know that.

Lets see what he says, this summer will be significant. I am cautiously optimistic that we could be looking at a scenario 3, with Usmanov, Moshiri and potentially other partners looking to build a super club. Located in an iconic football and tourist city, with wilted rivals and slightly further afield United struggling too there is a real opportunity.
 
Like I said, Idle speculation on my part but there's a lot of unanswered questions over the structure of the 'takeover that never was' here.

This is why we need Moshiri front and centre and rolling out a plan of action. The longer that drags on before he does will just ratchet up fears that his capital has been parked in a PL club that is safe enough and gaining value, as per the feller he took shares off.

He has only just been cleared. You don't buy 49.9% to sit idly I'd say. As you say it will be nice to hear something and I am sure we will. I suspect we will have a snippet soon, and big plans in the summer. The comments from Martinez are very different to anything anyone had to say about Earl.
 
The plan has just been released, not detailed but very clear on the next steps:

1) Usmanov to buy in, so that he and Moshiri take 75% of EFC shares and then clean up the small shareholders
2) Martinez removed immediately
3) Massive investment in stadium and playing staff
4) World domination
 
Just a couple of things with that. In spite of the RAWK laughing bandwagon increasing evidence is being presented to show that the 1.3 billion Moshiri has in his own right is a conservative estimate, as mainly American firms who estimate them are in the dark about finances in Russia. he is very wealthy and probably has significant connections and shares that are probably a little tied up. However he does have huge influence, connections and ability to acquire funding off his own back without Usmanov.

Usmanov is the elephant in the room. They work very closely together and whatever he does will be a huge game changer. Moshiri's wealth takes us potentially to a new level (similar to Liverpool but probably a bit beyond them) but by no means to the pinnacle, Usmanov is the game changer. While we get laughed at for mentioning Usmanov it is actually really stupid not to consider him, especially given how closely him and Moshiri work together, and own companies together.

As I've said earlier in the thread, to me there are 3 possibilities;

1) Tactical play for Arsenal. Usmanov wants to pressure Kroenke. (At best) he gets his colleague to buy a rival club) (at worst for Arsenal, he starts funnelling his money into another club via him). he hopes this creates enough pressure on Kroenke to relent and sell.

2) Moshiri flies the nest. With the good will of Usmanov Moshiri feels it best he acquires his own football club and with Usmanov's blessing goes to buy a new club. Their partnership in football is broken and both build their respective teams.

3) Usmanov has grown frustrated and wants to move elsewhere. He uses Moshiri as a proxy to buy shares, and when the stadium is due to be built probably looks to move in together then. Perhaps he didn't do it outright as he feels selling all their shares in one go would be too bold a move. Maybe Kroenke would offer him a lower value if he was bloc selling his and Moshiri's shares? Alternatively they may have felt rushed to act to stop someone else acquiring the club, and the time taken for them both to sell their shares wouldn't have allowed them to do it.

At present we don't know, and for the foreseeable won't know. I think it's unlikely it's 1 though. Even if Kroenke sells (which he won't, he has openly said it's an investment for the family, and it would be a stupid time to sell a PL club) and Usmanov acquires Arsenal it would be a silly move for Moshiri to sell up as he has a great deal at Everton. It also sounds like Moshiri has been looking at Everton for a little while. The plan to flush out Kroenke would seem to me to be a bad strategy and they would know that.

Lets see what he says, this summer will be significant. I am cautiously optimistic that we could be looking at a scenario 3, with Usmanov, Moshiri and potentially other partners looking to build a super club. Located in an iconic football and tourist city, with wilted rivals and slightly further afield United struggling too there is a real opportunity.

Usmanov's people in London are working incredibly hard with the press and other commentators to stress he is at Arsenal for the long term and still harbours ambitions to fully acquire Arsenal one day.

He bears no relevance to Everton's future.
 

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