Farhad Moshiri

[Ferguson1878]

Those were the days.

PJ was only worth £70m and we thought we’d struck oil.

PJ’s highlights was the FA Cup and signing Kanchelskis for £5m.

Achieved more in 2-3years that BK has in the last 20

You cant blame Kenwright for failings made by Moshiri, if it is Bill's fault why didnt we get into this mess when he owned the club? He knew what to do with what money we had and how to keep us flaoting along nicely, playing in Europe and enjoying the football. Moshiri on the other hand has come in like a loose cannon guns blazing and made a right mess, if its Bills fault now ask yourself why didnt we get into this mess before Farhad came?

See i do in someways think Moshiri should of fully replaced Kenwright, from a logical business sense, im just glad he didnt, becauset if he had of done theres not a chance it would of been to our benefit, not when you look how bad his recruitment has been, either way if we get taken over again Kenwright will be gone, so will Farhad.,lets just hope this time its all for the good because even if we stand still now we are going to go backwards with other clubs really pushing on putting top 8 even further

You cant blame Kenwright for failings made by Moshiri, if it is Bill's fault why didnt we get into this mess when he owned the club? He knew what to do with what money we had and how to keep us flaoting along nicely, playing in Europe and enjoying the football. Moshiri on the other hand has come in like a loose cannon guns blazing and made a right mess, if its Bills fault now ask yourself why didnt we get into this mess before Farhad came?

See i do in someways think Moshiri should of fully replaced Kenwright, from a logical business sense, im just glad he didnt, becauset if he had of done theres not a chance it would of been to our benefit, not when you look how bad his recruitment has been, either way if we get taken over again Kenwright will be gone, so will Farhad.,lets just hope this time its all for the good because even if we stand still now we are going to go backwards with other clubs really pushing on putting top 8 even further away

floating along nicely ? Are you joking selling players every year , selling our training ground ,then renting it back for a million a year of the council ,taking loans against future season ticket sales, that disaster kitbag deal the list is endless kenwright is the worst thing to ever happen to this club whatever way you want to rewrite history, and what makes things worse is that he’s become a multi millionaire off the back of his failures

 

[Ferguson1878]

What else should he have done? Ignore the debts

 

[spectateur]

Deluded mate, if the truth be told we have been in a mess for decades, our ownership has been a shambles since the Kenwright/ Johnson era.

Possibly since John Moores let go and put Carter in charge.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Not buying us in the first place would have been a start

 

[Ferguson1878]

Possibly since John Moores let go and put Carter in charge.

Difference now tho is the amount of doe that is in the premiership and we still manage to mess it up

 

[mawders]

Carlin we were in a mess before Moshiri came, Bill had sold everything we had off, we were in debt to our eyeballs, Moshiri paid off those debts. We have won nothing at all during Bills twenty year ownership, he got lucky getting Moyes in and Moyes kept us stable with his astuteness and eye for a bargain in the transfer market, remember it was sell to buy throughout his tenure.
I will admit Moshiri made bad choices as managers, but they on the whole along with his dof's made the signings, no one can accuse him of not backing the managers with his cash, or Usmanov's who knows.
But Moshiri took over in 2016, since then Bill has been his right hand man, the chaiman of Everton football club, so Bill must take some part of that blame from 2016, Farhad was his man.

Under Kenright we eventually achieved some kind of financial stability with a manageable debt and a bit to spend. We'd hit a ceiling obviously, but we were stable. Moshiri has us in a total mess. And don't think we're not in debt. We are. To a few hundred million probably. Only the debt is to Moshiri b/c all his money outside of buying shares is loans to the club. Just like Abramovic and Chelsea. We're absolutely screwed because of unchecked spending and ridiculous wages spent on utter tosh. And it's probably going to take another couple of years of not spending much to get out of this hole. If we stay in the league that is.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Under Kenright we eventually achieved some kind of financial stability with a manageable debt and a bit to spend. We'd hit a ceiling obviously, but we were stable. Moshiri has us in a total mess. And don't think we're not in debt. We are. To a few hundred million probably. Only the debt is to Moshiri b/c all his money outside of buying shares is loans to the club. Just like Abramovic and Chelsea. We're absolutely screwed because of unchecked spending and ridiculous wages spent on utter tosh. And it's probably going to take another couple of years of not spending much to get out of this hole. If we stay in the league that is.

You can thank record tv deals for that stability not kenwright

 

[bluestevon]

You cant blame Kenwright for failings made by Moshiri, if it is Bill's fault why didnt we get into this mess when he owned the club? He knew what to do with what money we had and how to keep us flaoting along nicely, playing in Europe and enjoying the football. Moshiri on the other hand has come in like a loose cannon guns blazing and made a right mess, if its Bills fault now ask yourself why didnt we get into this mess before Farhad came?

See i do in someways think Moshiri should of fully replaced Kenwright, from a logical business sense, im just glad he didnt, becauset if he had of done theres not a chance it would of been to our benefit, not when you look how bad his recruitment has been, either way if we get taken over again Kenwright will be gone, so will Farhad.,lets just hope this time its all for the good because even if we stand still now we are going to go backwards with other clubs really pushing on putting top 8 even further away

Sorry mate but Kenwright is an absolute cancer eating away at the heart of Everton and had been for 20+ years now.

He made one good choice - a very very lucky one, in hiring Moyes every single other thing he touched was poison.

From borrowing to buy, then refusing a loan fir the king's dock off the same people who loaned him initially as it'd mean giving up 'some' control, to selling Rooney and the embarrassment of that deal. To never once bringing in investment to help Moyes out, as again that would mean letting go of some control.

To eventually selling the training ground, putting the club into massive depth with the loans, notably the one against season tickets.

The cringe worthy forcing of the narrative of the people's club bollox to mask the fact the club was becoming less and less relevant by the season.

To finally (kinda in a has to situation by then) selling Ng up to Moshiri - making an absolutely huge financial gain in the process from something he actually never put a penny of his own money into, but with the caveat he stayed in a relative position of power. So not the best buyer for Everton but the best buyer for Bill in regards to his control at Everton.


Not gonna go into the ego of thinking he's the custodian of the club over fans, or anyone else, or the narcissist greatest blue ever tripe about his boys pen youth, all narrative driven by him and his cronies in the media.


The passion showed the last two months of the season, how I wish we'd have shown half of that to drive him out years ago.

 

[bluestevon]

You can thank record tv deals for that stability not kenwright

And the luckiest managerial hiring in history

 

[blueblue]

And the luckiest managerial hiring in history

Can you not say that about most clubs that have done well, our neighbours underperformed for several decades until they appointed Klopp. Utd are still struggling through managers. Even City didn't really hit the jackpot until Pep arrived.

You could argue that at least BK was able to pick a manager, something we seem unable to do in the more recent seasons.

 

[Eggs]

Can you not say that about most clubs that have done well, our neighbours underperformed for several decades until they appointed Klopp. Utd are still struggling through managers. Even City didn't really hit the jackpot until Pep arrived.

You could argue that at least BK was able to pick a manager, something we seem unable to do in the more recent seasons.

….I have wondered if BK endorsed the Benitez appointment or whether he advised Moshiri against it.

 

[lancs blue]

Kenwright is a parasitic dinosaur

 

[The binman chronicles]

Under Kenright we eventually achieved some kind of financial stability with a manageable debt and a bit to spend. We'd hit a ceiling obviously, but we were stable. Moshiri has us in a total mess. And don't think we're not in debt. We are. To a few hundred million probably. Only the debt is to Moshiri b/c all his money outside of buying shares is loans to the club. Just like Abramovic and Chelsea. We're absolutely screwed because of unchecked spending and ridiculous wages spent on utter tosh. And it's probably going to take another couple of years of not spending much to get out of this hole. If we stay in the league that is.

You mean this kind of stability? Selling everything to 3rd parties to raise a quick buck (Kitbag/FFto the council, loans secured on first dibs of the TV money) while the long term gain was for the people who bought them. We didn't buy a player for 2 years because we were skint.

Meanwhile even in our 'perilous' state we've brought in Gray, Townsend, Patterson, Alli, Mykolenko and Tarkowski, all the while reducing costs AND building a new stadium. What's the big deal? People cry if we buy expensive players but now we are doing cheaper deals people are still upset...

 

[Lobster Johnson]

You mean this kind of stability? Selling everything to 3rd parties to raise a quick buck (Kitbag/FFto the council, loans secured on first dibs of the TV money) while the long term gain was for the people who bought them. We didn't buy a player for 2 years because we were skint.

Meanwhile even in our 'perilous' state we've brought in Gray, Townsend, Patterson, Alli, Mykolenko and Tarkowski, all the while reducing costs AND building a new stadium. What's the big deal? People cry if we buy expensive players but now we are doing cheaper deals people are still upset...

Don't come in here with sensible, nuanced ideas. I won't stand for it!

 

[mahermi1]

You can thank record tv deals for that stability not kenwright

plus selling Evertons better players, and the training ground amongst other things, as well as our season ticket sales in hock for the following two seasons.