Farhad Moshiri

[mahermi1]

The new loans were from BK's mates at extortionate rates of interest though

Wonder how much Bill made out of that then ? A true superblue though. Detest him, he's killing our club.

 

[Furey1878]

I meant the ones from Andy Bell / MSP, plus effectively lines of credit from other clubs.

Fair enough, it must be noted that Bell is a lifelong Evertonian, so it's likely we've been given a favour that another club in our position wouldn't have received.

Well I can't say likely actually, but, you know, a possibility.

 

[neil999]

Who's gonna read an article/twitter thread if it says everton have some financial concerns

Just another version of clickbait, re articles saying administration possible/imminent

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I agree, but I think relegation would throw petrol onto the fire in terms of administration. Hence why so many are worried.

Relegation is the doomsday scenario but that's what I mean by a situation where Moshiri might be forced to sell for a nominal amount and I think you'd find investors willing to take over the club even with its debts and obligations.

For example, people view the 300m or whatever to finish the stadium as a millstone around the next owner's neck, but that ignores the enormous value of what's already there, in terms of expenditure AND in terms of time and effort getting it even past the planning stage let alone to where it is now.

Even ignoring the football side of the business and the brand value etc, if you could acquire Everton for a knock down price you'd then be spending 300m of your own money to acquire a 750m stadium. It's a key asset that means that if we were anywhere close to insolvency there'd be a queue to take us over before it happened.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

It's mad because, for me, you only need to see the affect that City's takeover and subsequent success has had on the city of Manchester as a whole. I realise it was a different time compared to now.. but they were relative minnows (certainly compared to United) before they got that massive injection of cash and it payed off for all parties massively.

It may be blue-tinted specs firmly on here.. but surely there's parallels to be draw there with Everton? the phrase 'sleeping giant' gets bandied about a lot but I honestly don't think that's a million miles off.. we've even got the stadium in the wings already there for the next owner.

 

[woomy]

It's mad because, for me, you only need to see the affect that City's takeover and subsequent success has had on the city of Manchester as a whole. I realise it was a different time compared to now.. but they were relative minnows (certainly compared to United) before they got that massive injection of cash and it payed off for all parties massively.

It may be blue-tinted specs firmly on here.. but surely there's parallels to be draw there with Everton? the phrase 'sleeping giant' gets bandied about a lot but I honestly don't think that's a million miles off.. we've even got the stadium in the wings already there for the next owner.

Im not really familiar with Liverpool and its locations. With City, they were smack bang in an area of nothingness and turned it in to something. The stadium was literally in the middle of a poo hole.
Do Everton have that. Is it feasible to build a club infrastructure around the Dock area or re-purchase Finch Farm and be part of a whole regenerate plan around that area?

 

[micknick]

Question is how long will the restrictions to your Usmanovs of the world last? If they are lifted does it change everything for us again?

 

[jonnyboy316]

It's mad because, for me, you only need to see the affect that City's takeover and subsequent success has had on the city of Manchester as a whole. I realise it was a different time compared to now.. but they were relative minnows (certainly compared to United) before they got that massive injection of cash and it payed off for all parties massively.

It may be blue-tinted specs firmly on here.. but surely there's parallels to be draw there with Everton? the phrase 'sleeping giant' gets bandied about a lot but I honestly don't think that's a million miles off.. we've even got the stadium in the wings already there for the next owner.

Think that horse has bolted. Qatar have PSG, Saudi’s Newcastle and Abu Dhabi City.

 

[micknick]

Think that horse has bolted. Qatar have PSG, Saudi’s Newcastle and Abu Dhabi City.

Its shown a few times that a new stadium can be the catalyst for new owners.

 

[mahermi1]

Question is how long will the restrictions to your Usmanovs of the world last? If they are lifted does it change everything for us again?

Once bitten ?

 

[b-rad]

It's mad because, for me, you only need to see the affect that City's takeover and subsequent success has had on the city of Manchester as a whole. I realise it was a different time compared to now.. but they were relative minnows (certainly compared to United) before they got that massive injection of cash and it payed off for all parties massively.

It may be blue-tinted specs firmly on here.. but surely there's parallels to be draw there with Everton? the phrase 'sleeping giant' gets bandied about a lot but I honestly don't think that's a million miles off.. we've even got the stadium in the wings already there for the next owner.

Too late for anyone else to have a massive cash injection and leapfrog the rest, even over a number of years.
The best case for anyone is Newcastle's case of becoming part of the top 4/5/6/7.

We had our chance 6 years ago and messed it up.

 

[jonnyboy316]

Feels like administration is inevitable sooner rather than later

 

[allen]

Im not really familiar with Liverpool and its locations. With City, they were smack bang in an area of nothingness and turned it in to something. The stadium was literally in the middle of a poo hole.
Do Everton have that. Is it feasible to build a club infrastructure around the Dock area or re-purchase Finch Farm and be part of a whole regenerate plan around that area?

Liverpool Waters is about as major as redevelopments go, and Everton is the anchor tennant.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Feels like administration is inevitable sooner rather than later

Jesus Christ, just because someone's mentioned administration on a twitter thread and it's become word of the day doesn't mean it's looming. The club has assets and there hasn't been the merest hint of default on debts. There is a long list of things that could and would happen to prevent insolvency. It's not impossible but it's a million miles off "inevitable".

 

[jonnyboy316]

Jesus Christ, just because someone's mentioned administration on a twitter thread and it's become word of the day doesn't mean it's looming. The club has assets and there hasn't been the merest hint of default on debts. There is a long list of things that could and would happen to prevent insolvency. It's not impossible but it's a million miles off "inevitable".

Short of new investment it is inevitable and we are not attractive to investors. Hugely concerning