Farhad Moshiri

[Ferguson1878]

He has done about as much as he can do, at the moment the general feeling is he won't get anything for his shares gor the first few years as the immediate cas injection from the new owners will be all towards finishing the stadium and debt repayment.

If you had an agreement to sell your business under those conditions would you be handing over more cash?

300 million in loans and still need to find 250 mill for stadium surely that can’t be right

 

[The binman chronicles]

The problem for me is why the preferable option ,MSP, failed .
If it was due to objections from the suspiciously secretive R&M , then I would question why Moshiri didn’t find a way to pay them off , he is still billionaire after all.
If it was due to his valuation of the club then he is at securely at fault.
The problem is we have a lack of transparency in this sale , so you can only judge by his actions and effects.
777 are an atrocious group to sell to, so to me to leave the club with only this option is as an abject failure of leadership, direction and vision,
I would prefer to take our chance in administration than sell to these financial vultures.
They will finish off what Kenwright and Moshiri have started and finally finish us .
At least there is a scintilla of a chance in administration.
In my opinion 777 gaining ownership is a death sentence for us.

I agree with a lot of your points but we heading to financial armageddon without a consolidated loan with a reasonable interest rate. That in turn will give us a points deduction and certain relegation, while there is a chance to avoid that I'd take it. When the stadium is finished and we haven't got crippling debts it would make us more attractive to another take over if 777 aren't doing the right things afterwards, which we all have our doubts about.

I don't think MSP wanted or could afford the complete buy out (remembering they've raised the 100m through loads of investors) and they'd have had the exact same chance to be able to settle the R&M debt on completion to get around the block on the 25% purchase.

 

[Blue_Eagle]

The problem for me is why the preferable option ,MSP, failed .
If it was due to objections from the suspiciously secretive R&M , then I would question why Moshiri didn’t find a way to pay them off , he is still billionaire after all.
If it was due to his valuation of the club then he is at securely at fault.
The problem is we have a lack of transparency in this sale , so you can only judge by his actions and effects.
777 are an atrocious group to sell to, so to me to leave the club with only this option is as an abject failure of leadership, direction and vision,
I would prefer to take our chance in administration than sell to these financial vultures.
They will finish off what Kenwright and Moshiri have started and finally finish us .
At least there is a scintilla of a chance in administration.
In my opinion 777 gaining ownership is a death sentence for us.

I'm sick of hearing this absolute moronic line being banded about lately.

If the choice was administration or 777, it's 1 million percent 777.

Know that the saying of words "i'd take administration" have actual ramifications of likely never watching your club in the top flight, ever again.

Pull your big boy pants up and lets do whatever it takes to survive.

 

[Ferguson1878]

He has done about as much as he can do, at the moment the general feeling is he won't get anything for his shares gor the first few years as the immediate cas injection from the new owners will be all towards finishing the stadium and debt repayment.

If you had an agreement to sell your business under those conditions would you be handing over more cash?

300 million in loans and still need to find 250 mill for h

I'm sick of hearing this absolute moronic line being banded about lately.

If the choice was administration or 777, it's 1 million percent 777.

Know that the saying of words "i'd take administration" have actual ramifications of likely never watching your club in the top flight, ever again.

Pull your big boy pants up and let’s do whatever it takes to

don’t get ye hopes up that this will go threw

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I don’t need to pull my ‘big boy ‘ pants lad .
What you or I do or say have no actual effect on our club away from the pitch, that is decided by others.
If you choose to believe that a group of avaricious gangsters are going to suddenly turn into philanthropists coming to our rescue that’s your choice.
But if you could give me some evidence of why you believe this to be the case , I would be grateful.
Because at the moment I can see no cause for optimism in the history of these carpetbaggers.
Not a shred .

 

[ToffeeTim]

The problem for me is why the preferable option ,MSP, failed .
If it was due to objections from the suspiciously secretive R&M , then I would question why Moshiri didn’t find a way to pay them off , he is still billionaire after all.
If it was due to his valuation of the club then he is at securely at fault.
The problem is we have a lack of transparency in this sale , so you can only judge by his actions and effects.
777 are an atrocious group to sell to, so to me to leave the club with only this option is as an abject failure of leadership, direction and vision,
I would prefer to take our chance in administration than sell to these financial vultures.
They will finish off what Kenwright and Moshiri have started and finally finish us .
At least there is a scintilla of a chance in administration.
In my opinion 777 gaining ownership is a death sentence for us.

MSP were apparently only going to buy a minority shareholding in the club. That would have made little difference and Moshiri wants out anyway

And I think its daft to say you'd rather the club go into administration than 777 take over. Way too much hysteria regarding 777 at this point. The club needs a full takeover ASAP and there are no ideal scenarios out there

 

[Exeter_Gently]

The problem for me is why the preferable option ,MSP, failed .
If it was due to objections from the suspiciously secretive R&M , then I would question why Moshiri didn’t find a way to pay them off , he is still billionaire after all.
If it was due to his valuation of the club then he is at securely at fault.
The problem is we have a lack of transparency in this sale , so you can only judge by his actions and effects.
777 are an atrocious group to sell to, so to me to leave the club with only this option is as an abject failure of leadership, direction and vision,
I would prefer to take our chance in administration than sell to these financial vultures.
They will finish off what Kenwright and Moshiri have started and finally finish us .
At least there is a scintilla of a chance in administration.
In my opinion 777 gaining ownership is a death sentence for us.

Administration is not the answer...frankly a mad take,Kind Sir.

 

[Goat]

Administration is not the answer...frankly a mad take,Kind Sir.

Of course its the answer.

Take the band aid of quickly, fold the club.

Better than the 5 years of slipping slowly down the leagues till our Derby is against Chester.

 

[Billy Dean]

Fella has done a runner.

Causes some short term problems but in the long term it’s a good thing he’s not getting involved.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

MSP were apparently only going to buy a minority shareholding in the club. That would have made little difference and Moshiri wants out anyway

And I think its daft to say you'd rather the club go into administration than 777 take over. Way too much hysteria regarding 777 at this point. The club needs a full takeover ASAP and there are no ideal scenarios out there

Again ,if you point to one positive example from 777’s history , It might allay my serious concern over this group.
But any perusal of their record strongly suggests they are not to be trusted , that they will invest nothing and will extract as much as they can from the club and its support .
I may be ‘daft ‘ as you say for considering administration but I feel equally that anyone who considers welcoming 777 with any hope whatsoever is also ‘daft’.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest their ownership will be beneficial to us , none !

 

[Toffeepot]

Again ,if you point to one positive example from 777’s history , It might allay my serious concern over this group.
But any perusal of their record strongly suggests they are not to be trusted , that they will invest nothing and will extract as much as they can from the club and its support .
I may be ‘daft ‘ as you say for considering administration but I feel equally that anyone who considers welcoming 777 with any hope whatsoever is also ‘daft’.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest their ownership will be beneficial to us , none !

No, but administration is definitely not beneficial
At least with 777 there is the chance they buy in cheap and sell on at a profit
They make a buck and we remain in some semblance of stability

 

[summerisle]

Shown his true colours and left the club, in [Poor language removed] Creek.

We'll have a nice museum though.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

No, but administration is definitely not beneficial
At least with 777 there is the chance they buy in cheap and sell on at a profit
They make a buck and we remain in some semblance of stability

Yeah
Except that is not their declared intention in creating a portfolio of clubs.
Their declared intention is to use a multi club model to support their hyper commercialism and profit from the eager to be monetised supporters,
No mention about improving clubs and selling them on.
But if you can provide solid evidence to counter this view, I’m eager to read it .

 

[Toffeepot]

Yeah
Except that is not their declared intention in creating a portfolio of clubs.
Their declared intention is to use a multi club model to support their hyper commercialism and profit from the eager to be monetised supporters,
No mention about improving clubs and selling them on.
But if you can provide solid evidence to counter this view, I’m eager to read it .

I don't have any evidence at all to counter it, and you may well be right
I still think that is better than administration though

 

[Simon Buttle]