….not sure any manager is. He can only do what he’s doing, set his teams up to give themselves a chance of winning. Defending is vital if we’re going to win football matches.
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….not sure any manager is. He can only do what he’s doing, set his teams up to give themselves a chance of winning. Defending is vital if we’re going to win football matches.
Lob
Player Valuation: £50m
That may be the case but the story originated from the Telegraph who are absolutely abysmal and have actively been trolling Everton for ages now. It was then repeated by all the usual repeaters until it looked like it was true. Happens with everything which is why discernment needs to be used. It is far more likely to be more of the same nonsense than have any credibility to it. The PL are not going to put themselves into a position where they can implode an ongoing independent investigation and face legal action.
The story is obvious codswallop imo.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
They'll wait until the end of the season. If. We're 11 points above the drop zone they'll apply it this season. If we're more than 12, they'll apply it next season.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Even if there is no points deduction, this will not end well for us.
I've seen numerous references to Everton as "cheats" etc going on for months as if every other club was holier than thou.
We could never expect decisions in our favour in matches against "big" teams but this just adds to the narrative that we deserve nothing, and should be punished.
I am sure referees are influenced by that, and the general image the club now has, does nothing to help attract and retain sponsorship, either. But I know 777 will address that
Even so, if an excessive sanction is the outcome, it also gives two fingers to genuine efforts on the clubs part to tighten its belt and get its books in order over the last three seasons - to such a degree that we could have been relegated anyway.
I cannot believe that a 12-point deduction would be the outcome taking all factors into consideration, but it certainly seems like a points deduction of a lesser magnitude is on the cards, and I don't think we can absorb that either, unless its maybe 3 points. If it's to be a deduction, it will be more than that.
I've seen numerous references to Everton as "cheats" etc going on for months as if every other club was holier than thou.
We could never expect decisions in our favour in matches against "big" teams but this just adds to the narrative that we deserve nothing, and should be punished.
I am sure referees are influenced by that, and the general image the club now has, does nothing to help attract and retain sponsorship, either. But I know 777 will address that
Even so, if an excessive sanction is the outcome, it also gives two fingers to genuine efforts on the clubs part to tighten its belt and get its books in order over the last three seasons - to such a degree that we could have been relegated anyway.
I cannot believe that a 12-point deduction would be the outcome taking all factors into consideration, but it certainly seems like a points deduction of a lesser magnitude is on the cards, and I don't think we can absorb that either, unless its maybe 3 points. If it's to be a deduction, it will be more than that.
In any walk of life, If your face fits, you're OK.
If it doesn't and they want to find a way to 'get you', one comma out of place and they'll use it to hammer you.
If it doesn't and they want to find a way to 'get you', one comma out of place and they'll use it to hammer you.
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
And who shots loudest gets heard... Prime example was our last match, if that scenario with the yellow cards happens this Sunday its 10 against 10.
Mrbluenose
Player Valuation: £8m
Sad, but probably true.
Evertonthat
Player Valuation: £8m
There's no way we are the only club going beyond £105M in a 3 year period. Even if we've written off the extra as tax payments for the stadium, there has to be other clubs that have sailed just as close to the limit as us. I'm sure that's been discussed in the review, but whatever they do has to be evenly done to all clubs in future...
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Confidentiality laws (data protection) still applies. Would not matter if it were one off cuff remark at a private dinner. Not the best comparison, however, it was Alison Rose that broke confidentiality as an individual but was Natwest V Farage recently.
I'm not sure who that woman is or why you're hanging her up for judgment.
Just had a quick scan of her feed and I only found Everton-related posts - so be fair.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The Telegraph have been scurrilous in the past two years. Their very first report on this was filed the day after we beat Palace at home to secure our PL place two seasons ago. Then they've constantly implied they knew wtf was going on with this process ever since, and they haven't got a clue.
….and I think that’s the debate here. More specifically;
Have the Telegraph totally fabricated the article or are they publishing detail given to their reporter by a contact within the PL? Given the extent to which this is now being reported, surely the PL would come out and deny the detail if it isn’t accurate.
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £50m
Seems to me there’s a lot of Chinese whispers and linguistic games happening.
Looking at one of the original tweets “as maximum punishment” seems to have been interpreted as “the PL have demanded the maximum punishment, which is 12 points”. Which is the version that’s going to get clicks.
But the PL handbook doesn’t set a maximum punishment, everything including expulsion or anything the commission see fit are listed as options. So where does maximum come in?
It seems to me plausible the PL may have advised that they feel the appropriate punishment for a case of this type is anything up to a maximum of 12 points, otherwise I don’t see where maximum comes into it. The “up to” is crucial but doesn’t make for as juicy a headline.
Looking at one of the original tweets “as maximum punishment” seems to have been interpreted as “the PL have demanded the maximum punishment, which is 12 points”. Which is the version that’s going to get clicks.
But the PL handbook doesn’t set a maximum punishment, everything including expulsion or anything the commission see fit are listed as options. So where does maximum come in?
It seems to me plausible the PL may have advised that they feel the appropriate punishment for a case of this type is anything up to a maximum of 12 points, otherwise I don’t see where maximum comes into it. The “up to” is crucial but doesn’t make for as juicy a headline.
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