Football Is Dead

[MikeH72]

I wonder why!


No, I understood it perfectly well.

It’s handball if it benefits the opposition.

Spurs gained no benefit from the Alli handball. Nobody on either team or in the stands even saw it! We had won another corner and were preparing for that.

It wasn’t a pen for me, I can see why it wasn’t given and plenty of top Footballers have said the same so it’s not that outlandish a statement, if it was a pen for you, fair enough.

That’s why we have forums, long may it continue.

lol no, it’s handball if someone handles the ball.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I don’t support Liverpool, I take umbrage to the whole ‘lickle old Everton’ ‘it wouldn’t happen to the RS ( it has)’ ‘everyone hates us’ routine. It’s embarrassing. VAR is ruining football, that’s what I’m most concerned about, there’s no conspiracy, corruption, favouritism, etc etc. Just incompetenc.

I dont think anyone can say with any certainty there is no corruption in football. It's been proven many times and at the very highest level, indeed here in the UK. It would be naive to dismiss corruption out of hand.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Media seem obsessed with making Son look like the victim here tonight.

Like what is actually going on.

I feel very uncomfortable with this nonsense.

 

[longers]

Im sure its been mentioned but without VAR it would have been the same outcome, no penalty... only reason it got noticed was because of VAR.

 

[john jako]

Media seem obsessed with making Son look like the victim here tonight.

Like what is actually going on.

I feel very uncomfortable with this nonsense.

It’s the PC brigade. It’s in full momentum.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Im sure its been mentioned but without VAR it would have been the same outcome, no penalty... only reason it got noticed was because of VAR.

Yeah and we'd have beaten Brighton.

But we didn't and var intervened.

So of course were mentioning it. Var is a media driven farce to manipulate results.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

lol no, it’s handball if someone handles the ball.

No it’s not. You’ve got to consider body position, the direction and trajectory of the ball and whether or not the opposition gained an unfair advantage from it.

Spurs didn’t. Nobody claimed. You are quite literally clutching at straws. It’s embarrassing.

 

[Everton1970]

Im sure its been mentioned but without VAR it would have been the same outcome, no penalty... only reason it got noticed was because of VAR.

But it has gone to VAR, the VAR that was supposed to right all the refs wrongs. Then they review it and decide it wasnt handball, when City were punished v Spurs by a totally accidental handball, the RS got a penalty in the Champs League final for handball, there’s others too. And that wasn’t handball. Where’s the consistency?

 

[GwladysPhil]

Media seem obsessed with making Son look like the victim here tonight.

Like what is actually going on.

I feel very uncomfortable with this nonsense.

Weird isn't it.

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

Media seem obsessed with making Son look like the victim here tonight.

Like what is actually going on.

I feel very uncomfortable with this nonsense.

I thought that, bang out a few a tears and it's poor Son, it was a cynical challenge because he got caught by an elbow seconds earlier, the dirty rat should feel ashamed

 

[ADT]

It’s actually sucking the emotion out of the game. It’s got so bad now that I’m not even surprised with certain decisions and the worst thing is I don’t care

 

[mahermi1]

Do you think end of the season the PL clubs will try vote to get rid of VAR?

I would have though most teams would, apart from a certain few and we know who they are....

 

[Tubey]

Not fair at all. As I said, I genuinely didn't know the rule.

I asked if I should be annoyed and you posted the official link to the relevant law. I then actually read it. I wanted to know if it should have been handball.

How is using ALL the examples given in the official rulebook to interpret it "bending" it? lol It says quite clearly a major advantage needs to be gained and I've interpreted it using the information that they (you) provided.

You're saying that any change at all to the trajectory of the ball (so any contact at all) would count as a defensive advantage. Fine. I'm sure you're not making this up and it exists somewhere, so please post it as I can't find anything currently. Certainly not in what you've posted at least. I've no problem then changing my view completely.

OK, I'll take you on face value.

The advantage is having the illegal contact of the ball where it wouldn't otherwise have happened. That's the defensive advantage. It doesn't matter where the ball then goes, it's still stopping the ball from going the way intended.

The rule says and gives a major advantage from an attacking perspective as an 'explanation', not as part of the rule. It's actually explaining the previous set of rules - namely these - that deal with offensive football.

The only reason the word 'usually' is in the next set is because it's allowing for situation where the attacking/defending player has been ragdolled and has no control of their body. It says exactly that in the explanation.

Note the bullet points - it's adding literally point by point further clarity, which is why the first few refer to an offensive version of a handball.

Your mistake is the interpretation of the word "usually". It's only there for 'natural' reasons for the arm to be elevated above the head, which is why it can't be definitive - nothing more.

 

[MikeH72]

No it’s not. You’ve got to consider body position, the direction and trajectory of the ball and whether or not the opposition gained an unfair advantage from it.

Spurs didn’t. Nobody claimed. You are quite literally clutching at straws. It’s embarrassing.

Body position? As in having your hand about a foot above your head?

No you don’t have to consider whether the opposition gained an advantage from it, it was handball. By your logic a centre back from a short goal kick could just pick the ball up and put it straight back down and it wouldn’t be handball.

Absolute lol at that. I’m the one clutching at straws, not a single person on here agrees with you. You make yourself look a complete and utter tit on here every single day. You’re the most arrogant, deluded and self important poster I’ve ever had the misfortune of interacting with on this site. The day you’re driven off here will be a celebration for all.

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

Im sure its been mentioned but without VAR it would have been the same outcome, no penalty... only reason it got noticed was because of VAR.

Only reason the pen was given against us last week was because of VAR, we don't set the rules but if they are going to apply them them then they should be fair and consistent in every game