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Jt5688 said:
It's sickening. The Telegraph live mbm at the time said "And Son has just looked for retaliation on Andre Gomes...." before the severity of his injury was clear. I can't bear to read all these pundits in the mainstream media making Son out to be the victim and it being some unavoidable mishap. It's an absolute disgrace. I even include our own staff on this one.

If I punch someone in the face after the match I'll get a caution for assault or whatever. If they were to land on the curb, crack their skull and die, I go down for murder. I can't say in court "oh but I'm not that kind of puncher and I didn't mean to kill him."
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I kind of agree with you, but just a point. You’d get manslaughter because you have the actus reus (the physical action) but not the mens rea (the premeditated desire to end the persons life with the action).

butat the same time you’re wrong. if a boxer or MMA fighter kills another in the ring (or they die out of it as a consequence of the fight) the victor is exempt of legal prosecution isn’t he.
 
Jt5688 said:
It's sickening. The Telegraph live mbm at the time said "And Son has just looked for retaliation on Andre Gomes...." before the severity of his injury was clear. I can't bear to read all these pundits in the mainstream media making Son out to be the victim and it being some unavoidable mishap. It's an absolute disgrace. I even include our own staff on this one.

If I punch someone in the face after the match I'll get a caution for assault or whatever. If they were to land on the curb, crack their skull and die, I go down for murder. I can't say in court "oh but I'm not that kind of puncher and I didn't mean to kill him."
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Exactly, legal terms you take your victim as you find them, doesn't matter if you only intend to punch/kick/trip them, your responsible for the end result
 

Keiran said:
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Oh the irony. Have you got 'word of the day' toilet paper mate?

I said that it would be easier for refs. Which it is. It doesn't mean it's easier for the rest of us, mind. Ref's now don't have to consider intent so I'll concede that, but they do still have to consider whether an advantage has been achieved through the use of the hand.

"IFAB says that having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a "natural" position and a player is "taking a risk" by having the hand/arm in that position"

'Taking a risk'. It doesn't say that it's categorically a penalty because it hits a hand. And this is where interpretation comes into it.

It's fine to say you disagree with the interpretation.
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The risk is that the ball might hit their hand.

This is Matt Damon levels of weirdness.
 
mikeh72 said:
Add "Mark Hughes and Alan Pardew are good managers" to the list while you're at it.
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What I actually said: "Mark Hughes and Alan Pardew are not the worst Football managers of all time"

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"Mark Hughes and Alan Pardew are good managers"

lol
 

mikeh72 said:
What does “very decent” mean if not good???
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There are 'bad' managers.

There are 'good' managers.

There is an inbetween section y'know.

Not everything in life is either amazing or terrible. Though it often appears that way if you're desperate for attention.
 
Lanolin said:
Yes, I think pretty much anybody with any understanding of English would say that very decent and good have effectively got the same meaning.
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It's interesting you mention an understanding of English and yet don't have a grasp of the definition of the words 'decent' or 'good' which patently do not mean the same thing.

'Decent': of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.

'Good': to be desired; of a high standard.
 
Keiran said:
There are 'bad' managers.

There are 'good' managers.

There is an inbetween section y'know.

Not everything in life is either amazing or terrible. Though it often appears that way if you're desperate for attention.
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When did I say you called them amazing? Is there no section in between good and amazing to you?

Actually creased at that.
 
Keiran said:
It's interesting you mention an understanding of English and yet don't have a grasp of the definition of the words 'decent' or 'good' which patently do not mean the same thing.

'Decent': of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.

'Good': to be desired; of a high standard.
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You said “very” decent. You put the word “very” in there to imply they were better than merely decent.

You’re terrible at wriggling yourself out of awkward situations when you’ve been outed.
 

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