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Law 12
It is usually an offence if a player:
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
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It's a clear penalty.
Sunny Rhyl
Player Valuation: £225k
Just watched six weeks of World Cup rugby. The TMOs got every decision right regardless of which nation it was. Football needs to watch and learn.
Deckard2049
Player Valuation: £15m
Haven’t we been saying this for life eternal? The officiating has been atrocious and the consistency non existent for as long as I can remember. One week shirt pulling in the box gets given the next it doesn’t. One month there’s a huge campaign about dissent, the next it’s all forgotten and players are free to surround the refs and swear like sailors. The handball rule has changed several times as has offside- both are still muddled and open to interpretation. I don’t see why it’s worse now- VAR is still human operated and therefore subject to human error.
I don’t want to speak for you so I won’t. However I will put my own view across here which is that the sooner a large portion of our fanbase stop equating their enjoyment of football in relation to how well our neighbours are doing the better off we will be. The fact we’re not in great shape adds to the sense of despondency which is understandable, but I don’t recall ever hearing about football being dead when they were bottling finals and finishing below us only a few seasons back. Again I don’t want to speak for you- you may not give a damn about them- but I’ve seen enough evidence this weekend which tells me I’m not basing this opinion on nothing.
RFUS
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Law 12
It is usually an offence if a player:
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
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It's a clear penalty.
They spent the 3 minutes searching through the rule book for a reason not to give it, in my opinion. Beyond a joke.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
To me his only defence was if the ball came onto his arm off mina. The replays did not show this conclusively. Plus they were pretty strict about the arms having to be beside your sides for it not to be a pen.
Until it involves everton.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Welcome back from the dark side.
Zezti
Player Valuation: £70m
Law 12
It is usually an offence if a player:
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
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It's a clear penalty.
Yep, it simply can't be argued otherwise. It's clear as day.
For *some* reason, VAR decide they need to look at it over, and over, and over untill the crowd gets riled up from the delay and Atkinson decides to play on.
It's outrageously poor.
I'd chop off my little finger if it meant Liverpool not winning the title. Despite that, no, my view on this has absolutely nothing to do with how good Liverpool are or how bad Everton are.
Officiating has always been terrible, but at least it didn't disrupt play to this degree, so you could still enjoy the game and be able to say "maybe it was just a mistake."
But now, it's no mistake. That isn't human error tonight - that is deliberate. It took one view of that replay for me, knowing the rules (see above), to know without doubt that was a penalty. No bias, I routinely laugh off Everton claims for pens etc. as 'fanboyism' - no, objectively, that's a penalty by definition. Nobody can tell me any different. There's no fairness in the officiating, no consistency, no accountability, nothing. Just fans of the game getting shafted week after week.
TheBlueGibbon
Player Valuation: £40m
As Tubey posted above:
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
Blue Juice
Player Valuation: £25m
Until they gut the boys club that is prem refs then nothing will change.
It's not the system it's the people behind it. The professional athletes that run around with their guts protruding, get sent down a level for a single game when they make a mistake, cannot be openly questioned and are allowed to ref for as long as they like.
You look at the standard of morons in this league and it'll never change
It's not the system it's the people behind it. The professional athletes that run around with their guts protruding, get sent down a level for a single game when they make a mistake, cannot be openly questioned and are allowed to ref for as long as they like.
You look at the standard of morons in this league and it'll never change
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
These are the days of social media .... somebody with nouse ought to arrange a weekend where there is a mass boycott of premier league games against VAR and corruption.
Then a boycott of games not starting at 3pm on a saturday.
Then a boycott of games shown by sky.
It's time the people got their sport back.
Then a boycott of games not starting at 3pm on a saturday.
Then a boycott of games shown by sky.
It's time the people got their sport back.
Kenshin
Player Valuation: £40m
Kinda funny how more teams feel like it has wrongly gone against them than ones who would still support it.
I wonder just how many mistakes then that it has made. It had made 5 officially after a month.
Oh and a crap ref system given a video assistant ran by other crap refs? Strange that it is crap!
I wonder just how many mistakes then that it has made. It had made 5 officially after a month.
Oh and a crap ref system given a video assistant ran by other crap refs? Strange that it is crap!
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
The thing that really annoys me with VAR in this country is the fact that the monitors are right there at the side of the pitch for referees to use themselves, like they did in the World Cup and in every country/competition it’s used in but the Premier League think it’s a waste of game time so keep it to another ref team sitting in a truck in another part of the country
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