Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
To be fair most of our players are born losers.
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- Thread starter AndyC
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To be fair most of our players are born losers.
Bobby
Lol
Lol
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's not what I said though is it?
Maybe you should offer that we'll have a better second season under Koeman than we had in our first season under Martinez...now that would be a bold statement. He is (Koeman) "a better manager", so there should be no problem for you...should there?
duncs pigeon
Player Valuation: £35m
C'mon mate your twisting it now. We all know you feelings re martinez/koeman. Yes we had a great first season with Martinez but was all downhill after. I remember you posting not judge Koeman on his first season but his second, bit of a contradiction wouldnt you say? Anyway, would you like to take the bet on, all for a good cause?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I actually said that i wouldn't call for his dismissal until the first 18 months were up (in the event he warranted that call). I've stated that he's had a decent first season. He's ok, if a bit predictable and dull as a coach, but he's deplorable as a man. That's my pov on him.
The bet: happy to take that up on my stated terms...which is only fair really given you're the one who believes he's a good manager and capable of running up high points finishes.
a bell maul
Player Valuation: £30m
I think it might be kinder to say that they do not respond well to pressure.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
You see that's ludicrous Dave. What the hell do you know about his personal life that gives you the right to say he's deplorable? I'd never say something like that about any manager, Martinez included because it would be bang out of order for me to make judgments lile that on someone I don't really know. Making judgments on his managerial abailty is fine but id like to know what has he supposedly done to earn such a ridiculous snide remark as that if you don't mind my asking?
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
Final season? The one before was shocking to.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
That was worse, two points off the relegation zone in March, Steven Naismith starting every week. Some of the worst football I've ever seen in my existence was played that season.
duncs pigeon
Player Valuation: £35m
Sorry mate but the terms wouldnt be equal, Martinez didnt have Europe to contend with and imo, teams below us we a lot weaker than they are atm.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Ok, I'll handicap it: I'll give you Koeman reaching 68 points.* And if IIRC Moyes had a long run in the EL and still clocked up 65 points, so "the superstar manager" should have no trouble.
*If we get through to the main competition.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Ok, well 7th is rubbish.
I totally agree, to a degree, its not great, but its not 11th, what was Moyes points total the year we got 4th?
Did anybody care?
What was our points total in 87?
Did anybody care?
As I said David, Ronnys remit this season was European football, his remit next season will be to make us compete, with our peers and try and win a shiny, lets see how that goes, lets see if hes backed for an assault above us.
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