2021/22 Frank Lampard

[4737carlin]

Its important but its not at the moment. Sam emptied half the ground (and does most places he goes) because he looks simply to not lose ie he is happy with a draw rather than go all out for a win. His teams might achieve what they set out to do but are horrendous to watch and you can't say they are not. The best teams can mix it up and play a mixture of styles and formations to stop them from becoming predictable. Sam's teams are predictable imo and tend to get found out.

Yeah but this season going for draws could of saved us earlier, look at Palace and Southampton, they have won the same amount of games as us but have never been in the relegation mix because they take draws, if we had played out a few terrible on the eye draws rather then lose a few away games we tried to win, we would look much better on the table

 

[Marius57]

On Sunday there was no groaning and shouting abuse at players, none, the fans were 100% supportive, as they should be

OK, 100% supportive at all times? So you never criticise anyone or any decisions on here? Because like I say, until we lost numerous games, they had support in the ground, as benitez himself has said. So either we need to be 100% supportive both in the ground and on here, or the argument that fans wanted him sacked (because of posters on here) which led the players to losing games doesn't stand up.

 

[4737carlin]

OK, 100% supportive at all times? So you never criticise anyone or any decisions on here? Because like I say, until we lost numerous games, they had support in the ground, as benitez himself has said. So either we need to be 100% supportive both in the ground and on here, or the argument that fans wanted him sacked (because of posters on here) which led the players to losing games doesn't stand up.

On here the negatively at times is over the top, just look at player threads, people moan an hour before kick off on certain threads if they are in the team, it breeds negativity that is taken into grounds.

 

[Marius57]

On here the negatively at times is over the top, just look at player threads, people moan an hour before kick off on certain threads if they are in the team, it breeds negativity that is taken into grounds.

I agree, and that does my head in, but I think it's unfair on match going fans, especially away fans at times this season, to act as if its not supportive in the ground and that's what caused benitez to lose games.

Because while it did turn, it wasn't immediate after 1 loss etc

 

[tommye]

It still blows my mind Benitez was appointed. What the hell was Moshiri smoking?!

As a long standing habitual pothead of more than 35 years there is nothing I've ever smoked that would make that kinda shît happen.


Defo wasn't something he smoked.

 

[4737carlin]

As a long standing habitual pothead of more than 35 years there is nothing I've ever smoked that would make that kinda shît happen.


Defo wasn't something he smoked.

Maybe it was something he either snorted or injected?

 

[tommye]

Maybe it was something he either snorted or injected?

 

[BlueToff]

Yeah but this season going for draws could of saved us earlier, look at Palace and Southampton, they have won the same amount of games as us but have never been in the relegation mix because they take draws, if we had played out a few terrible on the eye draws rather then lose a few away games we tried to win, we would look much better on the table

But since that Spurs game, the two away games we've lost in the league under Frank haven't been because we didn't set up to take a draw. It's been because of woeful players making woeful mistakes.

Is it really any surprise that the team is making fewer mistakes when Jonjoe Kenny and Michael Keane aren't playing?

 

[BlueToff]

Can't look past the next five games. And that's the frustration because I really do think he's exactly what Evertonians want in a manager. I'm not saying he should go if we go down, but we just can't think about anything yet other than the next 5 games.

We need 3 wins. Get those 3 wins Frank, please.

 

[Curtis]

No. Not at all. A hard core of fans would still be sabotaging their own club and prepared to relegate us in order to "get der fat spanush wayter out, lad".

So his flawed and dire tactics wouldn't influence the team's fate? Its everton fans being saboteurs? What would that entail dave? Someone painting a tunnel on a wall at Goodison ala wile e coyote style and players smash into the wall and get injured?

 

[4737carlin]

Is it really any surprise that the team is making fewer mistakes when Jonjoe Kenny and Michael Keane aren't playing?

You mean like against Burnley?

 

[BlueToff]

You mean like against Burnley?

The other player I mentioned did play against Burnley, and made two horrendous mistakes.

Keane played against West Ham, played a horrendous pass that wasn't on - and it was a poor touch by Iwobi. JJK was asleep and West Ham scored. Keane then got sent off.

 

[Simon Buttle]

You mean like against Burnley?

The last 4 games we have dropped the likes of Keane, Kenny, DCL, Allan is not starting every game, Gomes is nowhere to be seen and its seemingly made a difference. I think Frank has sussed out who he can rely on now and he has made the changes he needed to.

 

[4737carlin]

The other player I mentioned did play against Burnley, and made two horrendous mistakes.

Keane played against West Ham, played a horrendous pass that wasn't on - and it was a poor touch by Iwobi. JJK was asleep and West Ham scored. Keane then got sent off.

Every player in the team has had horror shows though this season, everyone, Pickford being the possible exception

 

[nsno-chris]

I enjoyed a win, but not the performance which was dire once more. A win, even a jammy one, is a win though. Still in the bottom 3 though ...thanks to Super Frankie.

Yes mate, we should be playing open expansive football in the middle of a relegation battle and against a team full of world class internationals.