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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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PhilM said:
It's certainly fine margins. There's a lot of doom and gloom about because of our position, and to an extent I appreciate it, based on last year's fiasco.

But, if we'd turned one draw into a win, we would be sitting 14th; if it were two, we'd be 12th and seventh wouldn't be too far above.

Ifs and buts, some will say, however the point is that we're far from adrift. Other teams will go through ruts, and we've got to hope we gain momentum.

If we were to win two out of the next three, the mood would change significantly.
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Well said. If a couple of our jokers were capable of kicking the ball at the net thingee instead of putting it 412 yards over the bar from three feet away multiple times already this season we'd have gone into the break a few places higher with a bit less panicking. (But where's the fun in that.......)
 
Colonel Getafe said:
Hate listening to these pathetic cringeworthy interviews every week with stupid questions like "so, glad to be back at Goodison?" or "do you feel prepared for the game tomorrow?" - what on earth are these [supposed] JoUrNaLiStS expecting him to say. Almost as insufferable as when they come out with "how pleased with the 3 points are you?" or "are you hoping to build on this?". Absolute wastes of skin, the lot of 'em!
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A bit off topic, but I was impressed by Kevin De Bruyne when a journalist asked him if Belgium might win the World Cup and he responded that there was no chance because they were too old. Refreshing bit of realism, Kev!
 

PhilM said:
It's certainly fine margins. There's a lot of doom and gloom about because of our position, and to an extent I appreciate it, based on last year's fiasco.

But, if we'd turned one draw into a win, we would be sitting 14th; if it were two, we'd be 12th and seventh wouldn't be too far above.

Ifs and buts, some will say, however the point is that we're far from adrift. Other teams will go through ruts, and we've got to hope we gain momentum.

If we were to win two out of the next three, the mood would change significantly.
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People give way to much weight to the current table when it is the end table that really matters, especially when expectations are so low that just remaining in the league is your one and only target.

You can use the point I make above from a positive perspective, and say there's still loads of points available and we could shoot up the league. But when you look at Lampard's performance as a whole since he has come in, it's something like one point per game which puts us in proper danger of relegation.

Further, I really don't like the look of our recent collapse following our 'good form' (a home win and a couple of draws). The collapse has been abject, we can barely string two passes together, and having a shot on goal is considered far fetched.

I don't rate Lampard as a manager, and even if he picks up a few points over January and we end up in 14th for a while. I still fear another collapse where we end up getting turned over by Brentford (again) only this time it will be at home on the last day of the season!

He'd have been sacked already had he not had this unprecedented mid-season break to at least pause our nose-diving collapse.
 
andy4efc said:
I think some people forget just how much we have needed a rebuild and just how bad a state we were in. Just watched some of the goals from 2020-21.

Richarlison being Richy.
Bernard - not brilliant but tidy as a footballer.
Siggurddson - offered something and at least a goal threat.
Mina - now injured even more, never playing.
James Rodriguez - magical footballer.
Lucas Digne - Not as good defensively as Myko, but 10x going forward.

None of those play for the club anymore, Mina is contracted to us but does he play? really?. That's a huge scalp of players that were regulars no longer here just two years later. Of which all of them contributed.

It is huge change of personell. Add in that Dominic Calvert-Lewin cannot stay fit as well.

Whether it had been FL, Vitor Perreira or even Moyes coming back, whoever came in was going to need time after the change, especially since it appeared Richy was promised a move after another season (im sure he said something like this in an interview). Benitez sacked two of them off because he's a clueless pleb and another is involved in something that shouldn't be mentioned.

Whoever is in charge it is going to take time. Can't fix every issue in one summer, especailly when you're on a EPL leish despite other clubs able to spend freely with dodgy oil deals.

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Lampard came in last season, tried to improve the football, recognised that it wasn't going to work despite a couple of early wins. He binned off his principles for the time being and scrapped out results where he could to get us out of a mess that wasn't of his making - It wasn't. What did benitez have, 1 win in 17?

This season, he laid down the defensive principles first. The defence is much better, the midfield is better, all be it not perfect but the attack is STILL struggling. Why? Because our main striker is always injured, and our best attacker in Richarlison got the move he was promised a year before. We've gone from Bernard, Richy, Siggurdson, James, Dominic Calvert-Lewin to choose from, to Gray, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Gordon (who shows promise but is still a bit raw in my eyes), McNeill, Maupay. I dont believe for a second if the FFP wasn't a thing, we'd be near McNeill and Maupay.
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GoldenToffee said:
Gone by midnight on 3rd of January following three consecutive defeats.

Almost a certainty imo.

Absolutely untenable position if we get fewer than 3 points by then, and tbh even that would be a terrible return when you consider we've got Brighton and Wolves at home.

What a gigantic f up yet again but the board not to have acted during the World Cup, as if we didn't learn from keeping Benitez far beyond his expiry date.
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Dymak said:
People give way to much weight to the current table when it is the end table that really matters, especially when expectations are so low that just remaining in the league is your one and only target.

You can use the point I make above from a positive perspective, and say there's still loads of points available and we could shoot up the league. But when you look at Lampard's performance as a whole since he has come in, it's something like one point per game which puts us in proper danger of relegation.

Further, I really don't like the look of our recent collapse following our 'good form' (a home win and a couple of draws). The collapse has been abject, we can barely string two passes together, and having a shot on goal is considered far fetched.

I don't rate Lampard as a manager, and even if he picks up a few points over January and we end up in 14th for a while. I still fear another collapse where we end up getting turned over by Brentford (again) only this time it will be at home on the last day of the season!

He'd have been sacked already had he not had this unprecedented mid-season break to at least pause our nose-diving collapse.
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We are not even half way through season and some people would have ya believe relegation is as good as done. ??
 

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