2022/23 Frank Lampard

[ToffeeScot]

So your solution to our inability to score goals is to play with 8 defenders and 2 forwards?

Well Iwobi isn't a defensive minded midfielder and Myko and Patterson can play as attacking wing backs because Onana and Gueye should be tactically disciplined enough to drop in and cover. We don't score goals because our attacking players aren't good enough (Doesn't matter if we play with a 4 or a 5) but of those that do score goals - Gray plays better through the middle or off DCL and Iwobi is better when he has freedom that a 5-3-2 can give him. DCL is also better when he's used as a target man. Gordon doesn't give enough goals, McNeil doesn't give enough goals and both are best when out wide. A 5-3-2 is the best formation for the players we have.

 

[Lob]

Just seen the Joyce tweet - “a positive result against Man Utd is required for the Everton hierarchy to keep faith in Frank Lampard”.

They’re doing the same thing they did with Benitez, allowing his entire career with us to hang on the thread of one result. It’s utter nonsense. He’s either the right man for the job or he isn’t. One result doesn’t change that. Completely incompetent the lot of them.

The tweet didn't come from Paul Joyce mate. He never made such a tweet. It was taken from Joyce's latest article on the Times and the word 'performance' changed to 'result' and all the context of what Joyce was saying deliberately missed out. Nothing but clickbait. Joyce was basically saying the same as what all of the other Journos had been saying yesterday and that small part of it was him just surmising the obvious. Nowhere in the article did he say that quote came direct from anyone inside the club.

 

[UltraVires]

Just seen the Joyce tweet - “a positive result against Man Utd is required for the Everton hierarchy to keep faith in Frank Lampard”.

They’re doing the same thing they did with Benitez, allowing his entire career with us to hang on the thread of one result. It’s utter nonsense. He’s either the right man for the job or he isn’t. One result doesn’t change that. Completely incompetent the lot of them.

My only hope is that they are actively speaking to potential replacements now then.

I don't want to get into a situation that the search only starts after we sack him. No faith in that happening though.

 

[kev101]

Just seen the Joyce tweet - “a positive result against Man Utd is required for the Everton hierarchy to keep faith in Frank Lampard”.

They’re doing the same thing they did with Benitez, allowing his entire career with us to hang on the thread of one result. It’s utter nonsense. He’s either the right man for the job or he isn’t. One result doesn’t change that. Completely incompetent the lot of them.

One result?? One result didn't get us into this terrible position, loads of 'results' did!

 

[Furey1878]

It isn’t going to fix the club no, but it’s the most immediate thing that can be done to fix one of the problems. The board will take a little longer to drive out, but as a fanbase we must keep the pressure on and not fall back into a malaise like we did over the summer.

Everyone was just exhausted after last season. Imo we need to begin the chase now, have it be separate from anything to do with the manager.

 

[billyblue80]

I still can't get my head 'round taking Godfrey out for McNeil and changing formation. One who was lauded by everyone for keeping the viking relatively quiet(footballing wise) and the other who hasn't discovered he has two feet yet.
On top of the obvious 'who deserves to start' issue he also pointed out Brighton were a possession team similar to City and didn't treat them as such.
Playing smart but not being clever?
I may be repeating myself and others' points but I just can't get my head around it, and seeing him with his arms folded on the touchline tells me FL couldn't get his head around why it was falling apart.
This isn't hindsight either, the majority I spoke to wanted him to stick with the set up at city for this one. smh

Agree it was shocking we had a performance at city and he ripped it up I presume to play more attacking at home but Mcneil should not be starting and five at the back makes us more solid. We are not good enough to play passing football it needs to be compact and direct again as it was at the end of last season. And what's worse even at half time he didn't change it!!!! His in game management is chronic. He has to go we won't win any games under him. Very worried he's being given the Southampton game which is a must win but we aren't winning and even if he does what does it prove? He won four games in a season wow we must demand better!!!!

 

[Gilbert..]

I think you might be surprised what a competent manager could do with this squad I mean we weren't this bad in the early part of the season which suggests the manager has lost the plot as unlike in previous seasons we don't have that big an injury list.

I wouldnt be surprised. I'd be gobsmacked.
I dont think he's lost the plot. A few days ago we got a point at the current champions. What i think he could be is nieve to think they can do anything other than dig in, like the city game. We've had the worst possession stats in the prem for about 4/5 years.
Trust me i admire the optimism but there isnt much there.

 

[Furey1878]

You are right of course and in the big picture the Cup game tomorrow matters sweet FA

I guess that's why it's the FA Cup...

 

[GoldenToffee]

You actually want us to lose 7 nil?

Seriously? Wanting us to lose. And not just lose, be absolutely humiliated?

Utterly humiliated. So much so, that we never see the likes of McNeil, Maupay, Mykolenko and Tom Davies ever again in an Everton shirt, and Lampard is finally relieved of his duties. Wouldn't that bring about a positive change if we no longer had to put up with all of that?

 

[PhilRegan]

Apparently all our fearless leaders need is a "positive reaction " against Manchester united

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Irish podcast Off The Ball have just released a podcast with football analyst who goes into detail on Lampards tactics. Would recommend

 

[Del-boy]

Just sack him. It’s not going to get any better. Gives a new manager a week to knock some sense into these clowns on the training pitch.

 

[nsno-chris]

Well for one, none of them will even be considered with the current board and owner. Our shortlist last January was a complete farce, so much so that a novice like Lampard and a nobody like Pereira were the final two. For another we are skint, and he is the only guy we seem to be linked with who has done well with no money to spare. He also can organize us in a way Martinez and Rooney likely will not be able to.

Fair enough, but this narrative that’s going around that he’s some sort of relegation saviour needs to be binned.

He’s managed 2 clubs in his entire career and was basically Moyes with less “pull” at Burnley. Coming into a bigger club with more pressure may see his philosophy collapse when he panics

 

[allen]

One result?? One result didn't get us into this terrible position, loads of 'results' did!

That's exactly his point.

Boiling it down to "he goes if he loses to United" is totally absurd.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Fair enough, but this narrative that’s going around that he’s some sort of relegation saviour needs to be binned.

He’s managed 2 clubs in his entire career and was basically Moyes with less “pull” at Burnley. Coming into a bigger club with more pressure may see his philosophy collapse when he panics

His philosophy is survival though. Which is the philosophy we need for the next two seasons at least.