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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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andy4efc said:
Nothing wrong with having focus on developing hte brand in other areas. Doesnt link in to first team matters at all, and revenue brought in with other areas helps the club.

But we have an owner who hasnt a clue about football.
We have a chairman who is holding on to the train set and also has very little clue about football.
We have a CEO who doesnt have a football club background, and despite her good work for Charity, it doesnt qualify her to run a big football business.

I know Simon Jordan is a bit of a meff at times on Talksport, and I'm not shouting for him to be our CEO, but how he approaches things is correct for someone who is running a football club.
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I know what you mean but we’ve spent decades focusing on the peripheral stuff (and being crap at it) like Asian fans etc. We need someone who is willing to tear through the business and get us functioning properly. Jordan is a meff all the time but he’s much more the type we need than DBB, who may be nice but isn’t what we need to lead from the top.
 
andy4efc said:
Dont delude yourself into thinking that we didnt need the money. The rest of the story isn't relevant to my point. We were not run sustainably if a generational talent was sold so quickly because we desperately needed the money. Treading water for so long year on year is not sustainable running. Just like hovering above the relegation zone year after year isn't sustainable because at one point, you will drown. I also dont blame Rooney for stupid comments he made when he was younger, I dont blame him for leaving. I have said things when im 19 and regret them, ashamed of them. I remmeber once when I was younger being happy Osman got injured as he'd get subbed, I dont see that as a representation of who I am so I dont hold any personal hatred (which you appear to) towards Rooney for it.

Becuase Big Blue Bill kept himself on as chairman as part of the deal. We have seen the reports of Sheikhs being interested us before Man City but he didn't welcome it (and with my fast falling out of love with football, im not sure I'd feel any better about endless amounts of money at the cost of our soul). As I pointed out in my post, he is not the only problem, Moshiri's actions are ones that Moshiri has to answer for but Kenwright is not blameless in this. He claims to be a big blue, but was happy to sell to someone clueless because he got to stay on as Chairman. BIll Kenwright has no reason to be the Chairman of Everton football club. Do you honestly think Kenwright has no input anymore despite being Chairman? Why was Graeme Sharp appointed to the board? It wasn't Moshiri who pushed for that. Moshiri is still listening to the man and that is another rock that can be thrown at Moshiri for foolishness.

I don't have a big enough ego to say i was protesting at the thought of Moshiri coming in, I can happily hold my hands up and say at the time I thought it would be a game changer for us. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but just because it's labelled as a common phrase, doesn't mena that you shouldn't use hindsight to evaluate the errors.

Hindsight is exactly what businesses use to evaulate the errors. Data and feedback is hindsight, it allows you to look back and go, what went wrong?

This is what went wrong, and is still going wrong. It has been going wrong for years and nothing has been done about it whatsoever.

To wrap it up, as I put in my post, it is not solely on kenwright, it is on him, DBB, Graeme Sharp and im sure Countless others who have been involved with no competenance in the field. The buck lies with Moshiri because he makes the appointments, but you can't ignore the question why was he ever allowed into the club with such little idea of how to run it and that falls on Kenwright. You suggest Kenwright is above criticism, but he is CHAIRMAN of the football club? He, like all the rest should be held account.

From what I've been reading as well, the anger, the frustration is all being pelted at the lot of them, nobody is ignoring moshiri, nobody is ignoring DBB. All the anger is at the lot of them, not just Kenwright. That doesn't mean an individual can't raise their concerns regarding that individual though.

The one problem I have seen is seeing people wish illness upon Bill Kenwright because it would mean he finally leaves the club. I can't stand that. Part of me feels as though it is probably true, but it makes me sick seeing people throw it out there like it's an okay thing to say.
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It is relevant as you made it relevant by claiming it was ALL about the money which it wasn't. Greedy Manc pushed for a deal and we were not in a position to turn it down. Make no mistake whether it was that summer or the next, he was moving for more money.
Find me one quote from a credible source that states Bill staying as Chairman was the deal breaker rather than Moshiri wanting Bill's experience. I will have a long wait as we both know it doesn't exist. It's become a myth invented by the Anti Bill Mob as it can't be proofed either way.
Hindsight can NOT be used as a stick to. beat someone up with which is what you lot do. Moshiri is/was a billionaire accountant with a rich partner and experience in football albeit to a limited degree. What do you want Bill to do?
 

Toff33Blues99 said:
It is relevant as you made it relevant by claiming it was ALL about the money which it wasn't. Greedy Manc pushed for a deal and we were not in a position to turn it down. Make no mistake whether it was that summer or the next, he was moving for more money.
Find me one quote from a credible source that states Bill staying as Chairman was the deal breaker rather than Moshiri wanting Bill's experience. I will have a long wait as we both know it doesn't exist. It's become a myth invented by the Anti Bill Mob as it can't be proofed either way.
Hindsight can NOT be used as a stick to. beat someone up with which is what you lot do. Moshiri is/was a billionaire accountant with a rich partner and experience in football albeit to a limited degree. What do you want Bill to do?
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Retire
 
banno said:
I see it slightly different and even though it is speculation I believe a conditional takeover was agreed. That condition being Kenwright is still heavily involved. Moshiri has probably gone to Kenwright for advice and we know what Kenwrights record is like. Kenwright has to go IMO and Moshiri say sod this I need people that have the experience and knowledge or running a club and go from there. Moshiri has run this club Kenwrights way and I believe is Kenwrights puppet. Moshiri has trusted Kenwright to the clubs demise IMO
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As said previously, I would hate to see the state of club with out Bill's experience
 

Toff33Blues99 said:
Does he? If regular top 7 finishes are failure than what are we calling this
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This is also failure, but thats cos Bill the stain is still here.

We dont know what an Everton without Bill Kenwright looks like.

Well, we do, it looks like this :

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