GrandOldSte117
Player Valuation: £15m
The fact is was ever sung was just Evertonians buzzing that a player that good was any way associated with Everton
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ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Doubt it....
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
Posted 5 hours ago so safe to say it's bollocks
You sure? It was posted by Scouse Master D, though, so I don’t know what to believe.
Everton didn't do enough in the summer. The 8 they brought in - only 2 of them were attackers (that's being generous to McNeil) - and they needed more.
I blame the DoF and blame the manager for that but ultimately the fact that McNeil and Maupay are even the options they had is because of gross negligence above them too.
Everton need quality at the top end of the pitch, any team does. At the moment, we don't have it. The players aren't at the club. There's only one way to fix it. No manager that Everton can realistically appoint turns Gray into a consistent player or Gordon into a consistent player or McNeil into, well, anything, in the short amount of time between now and the end of the season.
Potter's run is far and away worse than what Lampard got binned by Chelsea for, it's worth pointing out.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
They can play better than they have been. I can't imagine watching Gray Friday and thinking he's so awful that we can't do anything with him. A real attacking system will go a long way.
Gray is fine in a system that affords him space, absolutely. But you still need end product on a consistent basis - he will never have that. He just won't, he's 26 now.
That's not to say he's a huge problem but when he's your best out and out attacking player then ultimately you can't expect to be anything but a team battling relegation.
That's not to say it's acceptable to be where Everton are, but ultimately if you rely on: Iwobi, McNeil, Gray, Gordon, a half-fit DCL, and then at the other end Patterson, Mykolenko and CBs each with glaring weaknesses (Coady and Tark defending in space, Mina being made of cheese, Myko being rubbish) then it results in just a bang average squad.
Everton need a manager that can overachieve by dragging this current squad out of the mire and even then I don't think that will be enough. I'm not talking about avoiding relegation here, I'm talking about avoiding a scrap. This squad isn't good enough to not be in a scrap, it's not a mid-table squad. So if nothing changes with the squad then I don't care what manager we have in, we'll be in a fight come the last weeks of the season, IMO.
Add in 2-3 options (for me a striker, a creative player and I'd argue a right-back) then it's a mid-table squad and then a manager (one better than Lampard, ideally) would be expected to get us there. Without those players then no, sorry, we're where we deserve to be.
I also don't really see any evidence for this from any of their performances for Everton over the past 18 months.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
They've been in terrible attacking set ups for all 18 months!
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
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Gray for example is a 1 in 3ish player in this terrible set up. In a better one you might get him to 1 in 2.5. We've seen DCL and Maupay both hit double digits. Gordon is a promising player who has stagnated. McNeil is bad but also playing with zero direction. I don't expect it to suddenly be Man City but we really don't think better management can turn this collection into something capable of just 1 goal per game on average?
Don’t push me cause I’m close to the edge….
And before that?
Iwobi was crap in his first few seasons with us, largely bar the odd game. Not saying he didn't work hard, not saying he wasn't at times played out of position. but he was crap.
Gordon - failed on loan at Preston.
Gray - Rodgers, a much better attacking coach than anyone we've had since Ancelotti left (and maybe even better than Carlo in that specific season), couldn't get it to click for him. Went to the Bundesliga, the perfect league for his style of player, and he blew hot and cold there.
McNeil - has never played in an attacking set up and is actually a one-footed man who, and I've nicked this from one of the fan channels, can't remember which one, 'redefines one-paced', he's that sluggish at times.
DCL - thrived when Carlo told him to stay in central areas and we had quality around him in Richarlison, James, Digne etc.
chippy1722
Player Valuation: £35m
In a decent set up Gray is relied upon less, and would be less involved.
You don’t get many 1 in 2.5 wingers almost anywhere, definitely not at Everton.
He should be getting around 10 a season, but he misses easier chances and manages the odd worldly. He’s still miles above our other wingers though.
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