2022/23 Frank Lampard

[Drico]

Those last two are what we'd call expected losses now. People are pining for Silva because he's a major improvement on Lampard.

Even at the time they might have been expected losses. I'm not sure we ever accounted for "expected hammerings", though.

 

[billyblue80]

Tactically he is poor

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Moshiri has really dug himself a hole.

By not sacking Lampard he looks like an utter clueless clown.

If he sacks him after his comments on TS yesterday, he'll look just as equally like an utter clueless clown.

I'm not sure moshiri is particularly concerned with his public image like

 

[Furey1878]

They need to jog their memories then: 2-6 v Spurs at home, 2-5 v Liverpool, eliminated by *checks notes* Millwall, it says here, in the Cup.

Silva had his chance and wasn't up to it. Great to see him rebuilding his career at a smaller club. Sometimes, as Graham Potter is finding out, that's your level.

Both things can be true, I imagine he learned a lot from his time at us. I've no doubt he is a much improved manager from the one that left Everton.

The thing I always say in defense of him is that he was sold down the river that window. Sold Gueye, replaced with Gbamin and Delph, was promised a Zaha type and was delivered Iwobi

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Tactically he is poor

Certainly gives that impression, very often. I don’t think it’s lack of knowledge, it’s nativity and stubbornness. He is a clever chap, and has spent a couple of hours every day for decades being ordered around by some of footballs greatest ever managers, and was part of a tough and successful group of leaders in the changing room. Then done his coaching badges (which from the little I’ve seen of it is unlikely to build a better manager, just exposes you to the different things you will encounter).

He is also a fantastic communicator, and I imagine players will listen and try to follow his lead given his career, and the way he talks.

His biggest failing this season is refusal to accept the low quality of the resources he has available, and more important the mental fragility of our entire squad. These players are crying out for a formation and style that removes pressure from them individually. As soon as our ok start wobbled, it should have straight back to solid, simple, safe. E.g. First thing in the bin should have been passing out from the back. Not all the time obviously, but our gentle warriors would be much happier setting up on the halfway line with Pickford launching goal kicks into the middle of their half. Then the only instruction is fight, harry, push, clatter if near the touchline. Playing little wall passes with Onana near our penalty spot in front of 39000 groaning fans is not what our centre backs need. They aren’t technically capable, and are all terrified of doing a Godfrey slice, or a Gueye back pass.

He tries to install confidence in players by telling them he trusts them, go and express yourself. Yes, lie to their face, but then set the team up with simple instructions, no players isolated etc. Ugly ugly footy, but we’d have been mid table easy. He isn’t the first manager to do this here. They say they know what the fans want, then play tippy tappy turd in our half, terrifying the crowd. The only one that openly said we were crap and played accordingly left of his own accord and won the Champions League. All the others are in the bin (or flying high with Fulham).

 

[Joey66]

 

[Khalekan]

They need to jog their memories then: 2-6 v Spurs at home, 2-5 v Liverpool, eliminated by *checks notes* Millwall, it says here, in the Cup.

Silva had his chance and wasn't up to it. Great to see him rebuilding his career at a smaller club. Sometimes, as Graham Potter is finding out, that's your level.

Spot on.

 

[utv90]

It never worked at Chelsea with higher calibre players and he thinks the same tactics will work with our squad.

Disaster.

It didn’t really work for him at Derby either yes I know he got them to the playoff final but he had Tomori , Mount and other good loan players. He’s tactically poor and naive.

 

[blueblue]

Certainly gives that impression, very often. I don’t think it’s lack of knowledge, it’s nativity and stubbornness. He is a clever chap, and has spent a couple of hours every day for decades being ordered around by some of footballs greatest ever managers, and was part of a tough and successful group of leaders in the changing room. Then done his coaching badges (which from the little I’ve seen of it is unlikely to build a better manager, just exposes you to the different things you will encounter).

He is also a fantastic communicator, and I imagine players will listen and try to follow his lead given his career, and the way he talks.

His biggest failing this season is refusal to accept the low quality of the resources he has available, and more important the mental fragility of our entire squad. These players are crying out for a formation and style that removes pressure from them individually. As soon as our ok start wobbled, it should have straight back to solid, simple, safe. E.g. First thing in the bin should have been passing out from the back. Not all the time obviously, but our gentle warriors would be much happier setting up on the halfway line with Pickford launching goal kicks into the middle of their half. Then the only instruction is fight, harry, push, clatter if near the touchline. Playing little wall passes with Onana near our penalty spot in front of 39000 groaning fans is not what our centre backs need. They aren’t technically capable, and are all terrified of doing a Godfrey slice, or a Gueye back pass.

He tries to install confidence in players by telling them he trusts them, go and express yourself. Yes, lie to their face, but then set the team up with simple instructions, no players isolated etc. Ugly ugly footy, but we’d have been mid table easy. He isn’t the first manager to do this here. They say they know what the fans want, then play tippy tappy turd in our half, terrifying the crowd. The only one that openly said we were crap and played accordingly left of his own accord and won the Champions League. All the others are in the bin (or flying high with Fulham).

There is an entire coaching staff of experienced people around him, the responsibility must be shared amongst them.

There may be improvements around the club that will benefit us in the longer term but the first and most important objective is to get us away from the bottom of the table and ultimately that will keep him in the job or get him sacked.

 

[Moomin]

It didn’t really work for him at Derby either yes I know he got them to the playoff final but he had Tomori , Mount and other good loan players. He’s tactically poor and naive.

He actually got less points than Gary Rowett did the season before with Derby.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

They need to jog their memories then: 2-6 v Spurs at home, 2-5 v Liverpool, eliminated by *checks notes* Millwall, it says here, in the Cup.

Silva had his chance and wasn't up to it. Great to see him rebuilding his career at a smaller club. Sometimes, as Graham Potter is finding out, that's your level.

Or sticking by a manager and giving some room to develop a team rather than panicking and sacking them before they’ve had 1 season let alone 2 isn’t always correct.
Sometimes a sign of good leadership is ignoring the crowd and trusting your own appointments.
Risking failure can reap rewards.
I don’t think sacking Silva was right and I don’t think sacking Lampard would be the correct decision now.
Now is the time I would take that risk.

 

[Runub]

Presser at 13:30. Will watch with interest ?

 

[COYBL25]

Certainly gives that impression, very often. I don’t think it’s lack of knowledge, it’s nativity and stubbornness. He is a clever chap, and has spent a couple of hours every day for decades being ordered around by some of footballs greatest ever managers, and was part of a tough and successful group of leaders in the changing room. Then done his coaching badges (which from the little I’ve seen of it is unlikely to build a better manager, just exposes you to the different things you will encounter).

He is also a fantastic communicator, and I imagine players will listen and try to follow his lead given his career, and the way he talks.

His biggest failing this season is refusal to accept the low quality of the resources he has available, and more important the mental fragility of our entire squad. These players are crying out for a formation and style that removes pressure from them individually. As soon as our ok start wobbled, it should have straight back to solid, simple, safe. E.g. First thing in the bin should have been passing out from the back. Not all the time obviously, but our gentle warriors would be much happier setting up on the halfway line with Pickford launching goal kicks into the middle of their half. Then the only instruction is fight, harry, push, clatter if near the touchline. Playing little wall passes with Onana near our penalty spot in front of 39000 groaning fans is not what our centre backs need. They aren’t technically capable, and are all terrified of doing a Godfrey slice, or a Gueye back pass.

He tries to install confidence in players by telling them he trusts them, go and express yourself. Yes, lie to their face, but then set the team up with simple instructions, no players isolated etc. Ugly ugly footy, but we’d have been mid table easy. He isn’t the first manager to do this here. They say they know what the fans want, then play tippy tappy turd in our half, terrifying the crowd. The only one that openly said we were crap and played accordingly left of his own accord and won the Champions League. All the others are in the bin (or flying high with Fulham).

Great post mate.

 

[Moomin]

He did the same last year backed Benitez sacked him a week later wouldn't surprise me if history repeated because he is nuts

Done the same with Koeman as well.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Wonder what David Brent-isms he'll come out with today?

So Frank, do you feel under pressure to win this game off the back of two consecutive home defeats?

Well, you're looking at defeats as in the opposition scoring more goals than you, but that's only one piece of the pie. The defeats are the pie, but the players are the fruit, and the fruit is getting riper each week in training.