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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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Drico said:
I think we should have gone for somebody who wasn't on work experience. That would have sufficed for me.

I mean, there is a whole world of football managers out there - many of whom we could attract thanks to our status of being one of the 20 richest clubs on the planet. But hey, perhaps Frank was indeed the ideal choice. Time will tell.

Fingers crossed.
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There’s a reason we end up with the managers we do. We arent a big draw for a lot of managers, and our fans won’t give a young manager a try.
Potters name was mentioned and there was uproar 6 months later and everyone wanted him.
 
chippy1722 said:
There’s a reason we end up with the managers we do. We arent a big draw for a lot of managers, and our fans won’t give a young manager a try.
Potters name was mentioned and there was uproar 6 months later and everyone wanted him.
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I don't recall people being made up when Silva was appointed, but I don't recall backlash either. I seem to recall the general consensus being that he was a competent mercenary with a thin CV that we would be replacing in two years' time. Of course, he was expected to stroll out the door of his own accord, rather than the other way around.

I think the general skepticism towards younger managers is that typically if they do well here they'll be gone for greener pastures soon enough. Lampard's kind of stuck, given his history. He'll have to prove himself thoroughly before anyone higher up the food chain will try to turn his head.
 
I can see it taking a while for this team to be set to take on the echelon
I can also see Frank getting them there.

Sure they deserve a point or two more, but they'll only get so far until Lampard sorts the midfield and if he can't get certain types of players in its just going to take longer.

Its hard to tell at the moment, through the storm of social media, whether the club want a 6 or the abandoning the position for something else.
Surely they can't have banked it all on Gana, that would show the importance of the position isn't vital to where things are at.
 

Eggsyblueskin said:
You would like to think so but we made a very concerted attempt to acquire him last time , appealing to the Belgium FA , and the manager himself reportedly eager to return to ‘unfinished business’, that I am certain if the opportunity arose he would be appointed with some haste.
Our subsequent shortlist was very short of names and quality as well.
Let’s just hope Lampard can sort this and prevent the apocalyptic scenario I have sketched above.
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we WONT get martinez back

we WONT need to as frank is the man
 
Drico said:
I'm not saying he shouldn't be given time. I am saying "keep the faith" is a nonsense, sect-like mantra better aimed at the Catholic Church or the Moonies rather than a football club.

My view is that Lampard is a punt, a name appointment. He has done enough to merit building on the fact he kept us up. I hesitate to use the word "achievement" because it is nothing of the sort. So, he deserves time. But there is no "faith" to keep in his appointment if you believe the appointment was one of panciked convenience rather than something more methodical, considered, and informed.

He will get plenty of time from me - after all, what makes anybody think the fools who made so many bad appointments in the past would get it right next time. But faith? Nah. Pure hope and that's about it.
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I think you're being pedantic about what people mean by keep the faith mate. He deserves time, as anyone would do, irrespective of their previous record prior to the joining the club. It makes no difference what they did prior to Everton, what matters is what they do for us.

Giving a manager time, is absolutely key critical for clubs. Constantly changing managers, or assuming there is a magical solution out there, is more the sort of magical thinking that we ought to challenge.

On the subject of achievement, it was an achievement to keep us up, when it looked to very likely we were hurtling towards relegation. That was his objective, and he fulfilled it.

In terms of the blind faith, surely the real blind faith, is the idea that despite the fact of appointing a continuum of poor managers, and with each one undermining the clubs longer term performance, the solution to any short term blip is just to change the manager, as the solution lies in doing so. That approach has been tried continually, and not worked. To me, that's blind faith. In all likelihood, if we sack Lampard, we do not get a successful appointment.
 
4737carlin said:
Who was the goood appointment? Im going to have a guess and say your talking about Carlo, if so he wasnt a good appointment, he did an awful job and was a terrible fit for us, there was also no chance of him staying long term right at a time when we needed a long term apponitment
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Yes Carlo.

Theres plenty of reasons to say he wasnt, but honestly I think it's fair to say overall he was good. Either way though, it doesnt change the larger point, that theres not likely to be a manager out there who achieves what we would want them to.
 

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