Allardyce done the same mate and was catapulted at the first opportunity.
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Allardyce done the same mate and was catapulted at the first opportunity.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
Was some folk on twitter saying that his contract talks have stalled because he wants £100k+ per week. No idea if that's true as it's twitter obviously, we will see over time. It might explain his frustrations in recent weeks though.
Not in any way comparable
He took over a team in 14th off the back of a 4 nil win. Lampard took over a side with confidence on the floor after 1 win in 16 and a club which was at war with itself.
We don’t in fact mate. It’s my opinion.
We have had 7 years of building 0, wasted 100s millions, sacked a manager every season to get on the cusp of relegation. All the while undermining consistency, continuity and lacking an identity or philosophey, which undermined player development and empowered a bad culture in the squad. We have become essentially a PL Watford - we need to climb out of that. It undermines the club top to bottom.
Building something takes time, at least three years in modern football, what we have tried above has failed, any manager we employ needs continuity and time, the job was always a massive one.
We have employed this manager on the basis of him being young, progressive and developing, we need to give him time to develop and also build, he’s young but the task he has is massive - always was.
Imagine the absolute idiocy of someone coming in ripping it all up again and starting again. Worse thing that could happen.
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
If a youth player is just breaking into g he first team, has an ok season, and then starts demanding 100k or he’s going then I’d rather wave him goodbye. We just don’t need that type of attitude. He’s cost his team yesterday by being suspended. Hit another 18 goals in all comps this season then we can talk about 100k a week.
We were 5 points off the drop when Allardyce came in.
We were 4 points off the drop (and a game in hand) when Lampard came in.
Mickey
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm gonna start by saying that I'm a Lampard fan and feel he is doing a good job atm. However, I dont accept we should just lose against Utd and Spurs. Utd battered us on our own patch and Spurs didnt get out of second gear. We set up to try and scrap a draw in both games and got what we deserved. We defend too deep, we dont press and we play at a slow tempo, inviting pressure. It's unsustainable. Newcastle are not in the same bracket as Utd and Spurs, so if we set up the same way against them and slump to another pitiful defeat I'd start to worry. That's why its a huge game for me. We may lose the game but I at least want to see an attempt to win it.
What did Moyes do to earn so much time? What did Martinez do? Koeman?
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
1. Took us from 16th to 16th
2. Broke his hand celebrating a goal
ffs what else do you want from a manager man where's yer ambishun? lol
imo he'll get a free pass from the fans this season as he's replaced an unpopular manager (see Silva after Alladyce) next season will be the one when the excuses grow tiring and stop if we haven't improved.
Hopefully he pushes us on before then but for me he's shown nothing to suggest he isn't just another overhyped ex top player manager like Slippy/Rooney just without the arrogant attitude.
One thing I'll give him is that he's played the fans brilliantly since he arrived with his "man in the van on the street" talk despite being erm well.
I love Flash, but totally agree with you there mate.
Moyes brought stability. Got us into Europe pretty much season after season and was draining every inch of quality from a group of average players.
Martinez achieved our all time highest PL points total.
Koeman was sacked when the going got tough at the start of his second season.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
I don't think we got battered at all but really showed that we have improved on last season.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
He's playing like he's gutted he never got the Chelsea move imo.
We had one shot in the second half. The only reason the shoreline wasn’t higher was because we had 10 players behind the ball. Which is fine, but we still left with no points.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
He was shocking against United. He’s better than McNeill but if he’s not going to work as hard then give me the committed player any day.
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