2022/23 Frank Lampard

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I wouldn't take the posters on this forum as a good sample of the match going fans.

There's a fair few morons who go the match all the time who are very much like the worst of the clowns on here mate. There's about five of them who sit a few rows behind me in the Gwladys that have called for every single manager since Moyes to be sacked at some point either before, after or even during games. I suspect that there's a hell of a lot more who would be even more vocal about their feelings if they didn't fear ridicule from the rest of us.

 

[HSWR]

Lampard has very poor wingers in relation to the top teams in our league and two strikers who are either injured constantly or are not known for goals scoring records. It was clear at the start of the season we had a massive void in terms of goals and assists and it feels like Chelsea throwing money at Gordon made some fans think he was better than what he actually was. The initial task was to improve us defensively and that he has done , swapping from the first choice to the old guard last night showed just how bad these players are.

If we sacked lampard then we would be down already. No other manager can take an attack or Gordon , gray , maupay and turn them into a threat. Several managers struggled to get anything out of iwobi until lampard arrived. Take them out the question and we have nothing else to offer a new manager.

Some fans need to really open their eyes to the current situation that lampard is in and realise us in a relegation battle last season and financial restrictions this season does not equate to a top half finish. We are a bottom half team at best and it will take a long time to change that. Last night represents a bulk of how much rebuild we need to even have a chance of pushing further up the table.

 

[Moomin]

Not saying you're wrong, but who would you turn to?

Upto Kevin Thelwell to do his job and find a suitable replacement.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

If we win at the weekend then his gamble last night is soon forgotten. If we get beat - and I’m back in that familiar frame of mind where it kind of seems like an inevitability - then I suspect he’s in trouble.

I read a LOT on here that fans are to blame for managers getting the sack, and we need to show faith, etc.

Firstly, blind faith is never the answer. If a manager objectively isn’t getting the results he should be on a consistent basis he has to go. Depending on other results, a win at the weekend probably puts us about on par with where we should be in the league, in my opinion. A loss gives cause for concern with a big chunk of time until the next chance to put it right. I don’t agree that such a big decision should rest on one game but it very well could.

Secondly, I don’t buy that the fans are responsible. Cycling through manager after manager seems to be the preserve of the corrupt and/or inept board at this level of football. Rather than any kind of genuine introspection and changes at a systemic level, they just make vaguely positive noises now and then, and then relieve the inevitable pressure on them by binning the manager and starting the project all over again.

 

[Welshy]

It's just a matter of time.

 

[LocalNative]

it’s true tho innit. you want a manager sacked who’s been here 5
mins and walked into a mess of a club

oh let’s sack him

look at the bigger picture you fools

I think people want the manager sacked cause his record is atrocious.

 

[ClausThomsen]

I never thought I'd be one of those people to blame the fans for the state of the club and (even now I'd still put it at a distant third behind the incompetence of the owner/board and the disgraceful lack of effort from the teams most of the time) but you know what? Our fans are to blame for a great chuck of this situation. How is any manager ever supposed to turn things around if he's never given the time to do it? Lampard, his successor or his successors successor will never be able to fix and rebuild this club if they get shown the door 9 to 10 mouths into the job every single time. We've got to keep faith with someone at some point or we'll be sacking three to four managers in league two five or six years from now. I'm not saying that Lampard is above criticism, far from it (his selection last night was ludicrous!) but at what point do we stand by a boss at this club?

I think Lampard should be given more time - nothing extraordinarily bad has happened so far. It's par for the course that we'll get turned over by a few PL teams who are in and around us as we'll turn over a few of them. Especially when there's 11 changes in a competition that's clearly low priority.

But the fan blaming thing is demonstrably inaccurate. I don't know where some blues get the idea that anything that happens with our fans is somehow unique to Everton. Fans are the same pretty much the world over and the echo chamber intensifies. Every single club, especially in the PL, has a contingent that bemoans the manager and calls for change during a period of bad form.

I managers consistently fail it's because of decisions made by the club hierarchy.

 

[Handball]

I'd have Hasenhuttl in over Lampard any day of the week and he's just been sacked from a club with ostensibly less ambition than us.
That's how unqualified Lampard is to manage Everton.
He's had all the good will in the world and patience because of who he isn't and who he replaced.
We will probably stay up under his stewardship but we won't have progressed at all.
I don't think he has that much faith in the players or really knows what he's doing.

 

[Nymzee]

What excuse can we have if he can't get 3 points on Saturday?

I mean I can’t predict the future so it could be a number of things. Individual errors, profligate forwards, a hurricane causing an own goal.

 

[kenada_blue]

There's a fair few morons who go the match all the time who are very much like the worst of the clowns on here mate. There's about five of them who sit a few rows behind me in the Gwladys that have called for every single manager since Moyes to be sacked at some point either before, after or even during games. I suspect that there's a hell of a lot more who would be even more vocal about their feelings if they didn't fear ridicule from the rest of us.

"FXXX OFF CARLO YOU DINOSAUR"

*Wins champions league the following season

 

[matty1878]

Upto Kevin Thelwell to do his job and find a suitable replacement.

coz you don’t know pass the buck

 

[matty1878]

I think people want the manager sacked cause his record is atrocious.

and as i’ve SAID what manager? and is he scoring goals? ?

 

[matty1878]

"FXXX OFF CARLO YOU DINOSAUR"

*Wins champions league the following season

lol lol

 

[derek duvall]

I'd have Hasenhuttl in over Lampard any day of the week and he's just been sacked from a club with ostensibly less ambition than us.
That's how unqualified Lampard is to manage Everton.
He's had all the good will in the world and patience because of who he isn't and who he replaced.
We will probably stay up under his stewardship but we won't have progressed at all.
I don't think he has that much faith in the players or really knows what he's doing.

My views on Lampard are simple. He's a crap manager, borderline awful. BUT looking at the big picture, the club is an absolute circus from top to bottom so will swapping him out and replacing him with another clown make a difference? Answer is no.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I managers consistently fail it's because of decisions made by the club hihierarchy.

I agree. Its definitely down to the hierarchy at the club. We're run by morons but there's no point in pretending that our idiot owner and board aren't reactionary idiots that will inevitably panic and pull the trigger when fans start to get restless at the match. Sometimes they're justified in doing so but most of the time they do it to shift the blame away from themselves and placate those fans. I'm just saying that some fans are playing their part in this by calling for the manager to go every six mouths because it plays into the hands of the people who really responsible for the situation we're in and gives them an out.