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Gardening with Joey

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FGS the grass has to be pumping up moisture for the Glyphosate to work not ideal to spray in in bone dry conditions like we have now ......
I was under the impression that glyphosate was absorbed through the leaf, not through the roots, since the chemical has been designed to break down on soil contact so as not to persist in the environment.
 
Hasn’t WHO, friends of the Great Bunch of Lads, declared it carcinogenic and also a danger to wildlife :oops:
There are law suits in the US about glyphosate - possibly being funded by chemical companies with a vested interest in replacing it, as they do, with something less effective but several times more expensive that you have to, would you believe it, buy more often.

I spoke to a friend of mine about it - an industrial chemist and a keen gardener. He is without doubt the smartest person I know. The whole carcinogenic argument is prone to emotion. The list of chemicals that are KNOWN carcinogens can be counted on your fingers- the rest are 'suspected carcinogens. '

As my friend explained - you test these things on rats in much greater exposure than humans will ever experience with normal use. Pretty much - if you had a hundred rats and bathed them in glyphosate every day for a month and one of them developed a cancer then the chemical is a listex as a suspected carcinogen and US lawyers start licking their lips.

My mate uses it with no qualms. I bought a gallon of industrial concentrate last year in case some loon bans it and its replaced by something ineffective. (Don't get me started on the dirt cheap and very effective chlorate weedkillers that were banned a few years ago 'for terrorism ' reasons :rant: )

For casual home use I'm sure it's safe, effective and cheap. It's also been designed to degrade quickly on contact with soil so it does not persist in the environment.
 
There are law suits in the US about glyphosate - possibly being funded by chemical companies with a vested interest in replacing it, as they do, with something less effective but several times more expensive that you have to, would you believe it, buy more often.

I spoke to a friend of mine about it - an industrial chemist and a keen gardener. He is without doubt the smartest person I know. The whole carcinogenic argument is prone to emotion. The list of chemicals that are KNOWN carcinogens can be counted on your fingers- the rest are 'suspected carcinogens. '

As my friend explained - you test these things on rats in much greater exposure than humans will ever experience with normal use. Pretty much - if you had a hundred rats and bathed them in glyphosate every day for a month and one of them developed a cancer then the chemical is a listex as a suspected carcinogen and US lawyers start licking their lips.

My mate uses it with no qualms. I bought a gallon of industrial concentrate last year in case some loon bans it and its replaced by something ineffective. (Don't get me started on the dirt cheap and very effective chlorate weedkillers that were banned a few years ago 'for terrorism ' reasons :rant: )

For casual home use I'm sure it's safe, effective and cheap. It's also been designed to degrade quickly on contact with soil so it does not persist in the environment.

Is it okay to use in chickpea curry to give it a bit more kick ?
 
I was under the impression that glyphosate was absorbed through the leaf, not through the roots, since the chemical has been designed to break down on soil contact so as not to persist in the environment.
Read the instructions- plus the leaves are conecteted to the roots in the metabolic system of any plant for best results the plant has to be translocating water normally in our climate - for 100 percent success this has to be the case ....
It will work if the plants are dry, but not as successfully- you will need to repeat the spraying again Remember it takes glyphosate 2-3 weeks for this type of translocated weedkiller to work in the first place.....
The ground does not to be sodden with water, but good active growth with the sign of moisture at the root ie in full growth!
 

The systemic pesticide which is planted with most field crops which when I used in back in 1970 - Temic - SR pellets is imo the demise of the bee.....The was talk of banning that ?

It`s the neonicotinoid family of pesticides that`s doing the Bees in Joey. ( nicotine based properties )

I think it`s slowly but surely getting banned everywhere now.
 
It`s the neonicotinoid family of pesticides that`s doing the Bees in Joey. ( nicotine based properties )

I think it`s slowly but surely getting banned everywhere now.
Dont think so-
 

I was under the impression that glyphosate was absorbed through the leaf, not through the roots, since the chemical has been designed to break down on soil contact so as not to persist in the environment.
yes its absorbed throuthe leaf and translocates to the roots - it also states the plant has to be in vigorous growth....for the best results ie that is you want the roots destroying - hence no return - I always pur 5 ml of washing up liquid in my mix to act as a spreader as you should be aiming to spray the back of the leaf of any weed as thats where the stomata is eg the lungs of the respiration of the plant - as soon as the plant dies get the plants removed as I stated it will take 2-4 weeks - do not spray on a windy day or if heavy rain forecast - midday to early pm is best wear PPE in 30 minutes the plant has absorbed the weedkiller and is inert to you and pets ....
It is not like the old paraquat weed killers which just but the top foliage off , and leave the plant all perennial weeds to recover , and grow back - this works if you then clear the area with a spade etc ....once they go crispy dry dead .... the roots come out easily if its a large plant use a pick axe to remove dead brambles etc 5 weeks after death..... ....
 

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