General Meeting

[kithnou]

It did though. It got us 4th and a few 5ths. We’ve got the funds to make more signings than we did then, and to not always have to sell. We’re not talking about signing the equivalents of Marcus bent and stracqualursi here, look at Liverpool now, top of the league and key players like van dijk , Robertson, mane, Gomez and wijnaldum were all very gettable for us at different times. The key is for us to find those players early, it can be done.

Fingers crossed.

 

[TheVelourFog]

The Greek in me immediately read that as a baklava.

tell him he needs glasses

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Again i see where your coming from, but it's so much harder to buy your success than it was when say, Jack Walker was around or Abromovich or even Cities owners. Because no matter what we spend, they will outspend us, with a better starting point, better facilities, sponsors, CL football etc.
Even Liverpool are spending £70m on goalkeepers and centre halves.

Great post. We were never going to do a City with an owner who's worth less than Stoke City's owner.

 

[deipnosophist]

It’s a rum do...I’ll leave it at that.

 

[bicycleheader]

Said it before and I will say it again, Koeman is the manager who has won the most trophies in our entire history.

His stock was at its highest when we got him, his name rang out.

his name stank out to me.

but it doesn't change the fact the quote talks about just getting a big name. terrible thinking.

and here we are now

new stadium, league win and champions league win with our star striker getting da golden boot and then I'll forgive him.

or if he buys us 10 midget playmakers

 

[Lanolin]

I think the quotes about wages from the meeting just prove that Moshiri was opening his mouth and making promises that actually he couldn't keep. He was saying he'd bid £60m for Koulibaly and that we were looking at £50m defenders, and it always seemed a bit weird to me that we supposedly bid a world record fee for a top class centre half but then decided Ashley Williams would do. Three years later, fees have gone up and yet we've not even spent half of that amount on a defender. Now it all becomes clear, he had no idea how much these players would want to be paid. We would have been willing to pay £60m, but he would have laughed his head off when we offered him £70k a week and he wanted at least double.

That's the type of thing we're talking about here. It's not wrong that he's ambitious, far from it. And it's not that he's deliberately pulled the wool over our eyes, or not backed the manager. It's simply that he made noises about making a significant splash but has found that it's actually a lot harder to do than he realised. My point is that the noises he made have made the fan base a little bit impatient because things haven't happened like we expected, and in my opinion it would be wise to refrain from further statements like that which ramp up the pressure on the manager and raise expectations unless we know we that we can meet them.

 

[Brisan123]

But it was ok for Bobby to have a less than perfect grasp of English ???

Bobby had a phenomenal grasp of English

 

[Brisan123]

They'll never pay it back, and that wasn't my point.

Foretelling the future now Dave ?
Of course they will never pay it back , either will we

 

[davek]

Foretelling the future now Dave ?
Of course they will never pay it back , either will we

...and that's not the point. His conversion of that debt into shares will repay him on sale.

Anyone thinking Moshiri is throwing money at the club are daft. Player acquisition and wages are funded by revenues and the rest of the spending since he arrived has been consolidatiing his own control of Everton.

 

[Saint Domingo]

At least we’re having a go. A few years ago if you’d said that we’d be owned by a Billionaire, we had bought land and were in consultation for a new stadium on the waterfront, we were spending 30 million plus transfer fees on players, we had poached PSV’s director of football, we had bought the liver buildings and revamped the clubs infrastructure, and we were firing under performing managers, people would have laughed. If the CEO had come out and said the aspiration was to win the prem isn’t he next decade people would have said it was a joke rather than ‘overambitious’. In fact it would never have been said by best of the rest Elstone.

The club is completely different now and we are now at the point of complaining about execution and competency rather than having the capability to be successful. Before Moshiri we had zero chance of any kind of success. No new stadium, one of the lowest transfer budgets, falling behind every season on infrastructure. We were in a death spiral. Now we’re impatient that we haven’t cracked the top yet. Completely different set of problems. ‘Where’s the Arteta money’ has turned into ‘why aren’t we winning trophies yet’ ‘can we have 60k rather than 52 in our waterfront stadium’ ‘can we buy Werner to go with Richarlison’.

 

[Brisan123]

...and that's not the point. His conversion of that debt into shares will repay him on sale.

Anyone thinking Moshiri is throwing money at the club are daft. Player acquisition and wages are funded by revenues and the rest of the spending since he arrived has been consolidatiing his own control of Everton.

Exactly what Roman has done
If he sells Chelsea do you not think he will want every penny back plus a hefty wedge on top

 

[CJR]

At least we’re having a go. A few years ago if you’d said that we’d be owned by a Billionaire, we had bought land and were in consultation for a new stadium on the waterfront, we were spending 30 million plus transfer fees on players, we had poached PSV’s director of football, we had bought the liver buildings and revamped the clubs infrastructure, and we were firing under performing managers, people would have laughed. If the CEO had come out and said the aspiration was to win the prem isn’t he next decade people would have said it was a joke rather than ‘overambitious’. In fact it would never have been said by best of the rest Elstone.

The club is completely different now and we are now at the point of complaining about execution and competency rather than having the capability to be successful. Before Moshiri we had zero chance of any kind of success. No new stadium, one of the lowest transfer budgets, falling behind every season on infrastructure. We were in a death spiral. Now we’re impatient that we haven’t cracked the top yet. Completely different set of problems. ‘Where’s the Arteta money’ has turned into ‘why aren’t we winning trophies yet’ ‘can we have 60k rather than 52 in our waterfront stadium’ ‘can we buy Werner to go with Richarlison’.

Great post

 

[kev]

I've not said the quotes were a bad thing. It's right that we're ambitious and he wants to do these things.

I'm just saying they have definitely contributed to fan's raised expectations and that the fans should not be blamed for having these expectations when this is the stuff that the owner was coming out with in the first two years. Some of them can be forgiven for thinking we were going to "do a City" when you go back and read what was said.

I remember my eyes going wide at the 100 million number being thrown around for the summer transfer window immediately after he arrived. That felt like a very big number and possibly enough to help us kick on. Two years on and we've seen what 100 million gets you. There's no more "doing a City" but there were early on some high expectations that we could maybe build a team around Stones, Lukaku, and Barkley with that amount of money. Nobody saw the Koeman and Walsh axis of evil coming.

We're just going to have to disagree on this one @Efcjake.
I honestly believe that he has just come along and said the kind of thing of thing that you would expect and hope a new owner to say.
The expectations of many absolutely 'went through the roof' when Moshiri arrived, but I believe that was inevitable. We had been waiting so long for a takeover that it was obvious that some fans would believe we had found our 'saviour' and that all our problems were over at a stroke.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Strange quote from Moshiri about £250mil turning a museum into a competitive side.

Agree, thought this came across as quite disrespectful to the fans who have invested their hard earned money in following the “museum” until the saviour arrived with £250m to change our fortunes.

In reality, we are not too much better off yet. We might get there with time and more money, but on paper our league performance is no better than before he arrived.

 

[andy4efc]

Agree, thought this came across as quite disrespectful to the fans who have invested their hard earned money in following the “museum” until the saviour arrived with £250m to change our fortunes.

In reality, we are not too much better off yet. We might get there with time and more money, but on paper our league performance is no better than before he arrived.

I dont think it was intended to sound as 'blunt' as it did, a poor choice of wording.