Gerard Deulofeu - Once a Blue, always a Blue

[neil999]

Greedy little sh1t last night

All well and good turning your man and getting in the box but if you then hold onto the ball to long or shot from daft angles instead of squaring it to a man in the box it is pointless

I can understand a little bit better now why he has not started a league game

it was a bit like he was playing a game at school! not sure if he would be any different in a league match, interesting to see if he changes when he next plays..i can only really see him coming on if we are deperate for a goal and nothing is working

 

[Joey66]

He was so direct early on trying too hard - caused Fulham a lot of scares in the first half faded in the 2nd half as did most of the team !

 

[bobafro]

So what if he's 18

At 18 and having played for a club like Barca I would aspect him to have a simple grasp on the fact he needs to pass the ball rather than shot or take a man on every single time he's got the ball

this is one of two reasons Barca sent him on loan to us.

1) They need him to toughen up a bit
2) They need him to start playing more for the team and less for himself (2nd division in spain allows him to just rip teams apart single handedly.. needed to play against better opposition in order to learn that he needs to use his team mates)

 

[ijjysmith]

Still love that he's that greedy.

There's more than one way to play football.

Who is to say if he'd passed it that the receiver would have scored?

He tired badly 2nd half though.

 

[davek]

Still love that he's that greedy.

There's more than one way to play football.

Who is to say if he'd passed it that the receiver would have scored?

He tired badly 2nd half though.

Team game, mate. No use him show-boating if we aren't winning. His feet wouldn't touch if he did it at his parent club and the same criteria should be used by us. I love entertaining football as much as anyone, but if he doesn't release it to people in space at the right time it's just self indulgence.

 

[ijjysmith]

Team game, mate. No use him show-boating if we aren't winning. His feet wouldn't touch if he did it at his parent club and the same criteria should be used by us. I love entertaining football as much as anyone, but if he doesn't release it to people in space at the right time it's just self indulgence.

Sort of agree, sort of don't.

If he'd gone on one of those runs and lashed it into the top corner nobody would be that arsed today.

He didnt though so I understand people's frustrations.

I am highly biased here as he's just my type of player.

It is quite funny that we loan a player from the ultimate passing team in world football and we get the lad who never passes!

He's just the type of player who would meg you at school come back and meg you again. You'd try and kick him but never catch him.

Fair to say I think he's the tits. Not perfect by a long way yet though.

 

[davek]

Sort of agree, sort of don't.

If he'd gone on one of those runs and lashed it into the top corner nobody would be that arsed today.

He didnt though so I understand people's frustrations.

I am highly biased here as he's just my type of player.

It is quite funny that we loan a player from the ultimate passing team in world football and we get the lad who never passes!

He's just the type of player who would meg you at school come back and meg you again. You'd try and kick him but never catch him.

Fair to say I think he's the tits. Not perfect by a long way yet though.

Ha Ha.

Indeed.

 

[Themaster]

I wounder if we had of won would everyone one be having a pop at the lad.

He was our best player first half (don't even think we had a best player second tho). That ball he put through to Naismith was quality and every run had fulhams defence cramping them selfs every time he went on a run he did lay some balls off into the area but with just lukaku and Naismith being there the defence took care of the balls. So am not suprised he just started going for it him self. When we acually started attacking again in the second half he was passing again in there final third when he had options.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

this is one of two reasons Barca sent him on loan to us.

1) They need him to toughen up a bit
2) They need him to start playing more for the team and less for himself (2nd division in spain allows him to just rip teams apart single handedly.. needed to play against better opposition in order to learn that he needs to use his team mates)

This really. Seemed to me Jol had a word at halftime that they were showing far too much respect to a raw 18 year old and applied suitable level of grockhousing as soon as the ball was heading his way. He'll get used to that and adapt.
He'll be getting some **** when the boys do their video session at FF on the other stuff. He'll learn quick off the terraces otherwise...
He's ready to take Barkley's place as player with highest in mock formation posts/actual appearances ratio regardless.

 

[bag a yoko]

His future improvement is not our business really. Unlike Barkley or Stones where we can consider giving them first team football worth the risk for their development he should only play if he's the best option right now. He may become that. He's certainly got the ability.

 

[Steve Wigan]

His future improvement is not our business really. Unlike Barkley or Stones where we can consider giving them first team football worth the risk for their development he should only play if he's the best option right now. He may become that. He's certainly got the ability.

It is our business. If only because it will certainly help the relationship that Martinez is building with Barca.He should not get any favours, but we need to make sure he benefits from his time with us. If he gains, we gain.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It's perfectly natural for a lad of his age who's desperate to impress & establish himself in our first team, to overdo it on the ball in an attempt to show off his talent.

What Martinez needs to impress on him, is that at times his greed on the ball is having a detrimental effect on his desire to stake his place & that sometimes 'less is more'.

The lad has got bags of ability, he's just a bit raw & needs moulding into a team player.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

He'll learn, bags of natural talent. He will become a world class player. [can vault this if you want, because he will in five years time] obviously his decision making needs to improve and it will. Coleman went through the same process at a older age.

 

[Member8]

He's always been extremely selfish whether for Barça's youth teams or Spanish NT. At that level he gets away with it but at senior level he needs to change his game.

 

[toffeestillidie]

Hope Martinez made him did a couple extra hours of passing drills. There are loads of players who can keep their head down and dribble very quickly with the ball. Players that get their heads up are the ones with the potential to become world class.

I don't think the comparisons to Coleman are appropriate. Earlier in his career his final ball needed work, but he would at least deliver a final ball. A great example is when he assisted Cahill's goal in the 2-0 derby. Coleman ran with his head down and only briefly glanced up before sending in a ball, Cahill was in the right spot because he was watching Coleman's run very carefully and knew where to go. But even though Coleman didn't pick out his cross carefully, he at least knew to cross. Only more recently has Coleman started making those cuts inside, trying to take it straight to goal, and even then he frequently will lay the ball off for teammates very intelligently.

Duelofeu's problem isn't that he can't pick out a pass, it's that he doesn't even look for the pass until he's just about lost possession. Also stopping the ball for 5 seconds in the box and doing a few stepovers before doing **** all with the ball doesn't make you world class, it just makes you look like a tit.