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Gerard Deulofeu - Once a Blue, always a Blue

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Mundo Deportivo is as close to the club as AS is to RM - this is borne out of nearly 15 years of following the club...You're clinging to false hope if we're being honest, it was always a loan with his return a certainty - it was just a matter of it being 1 or 2 seasons and it's clear which it is going to be

It shows little understanding of how a loan nevermind a club like Barcelona works, FC Barcelona rarely loans out players nevermind players they count on...His early success with the Toffees and his ability to constantly create danger in the Premiership underscores how much he is ready for 1st team football and if he's going to get it, why would he get it somewhere other than his parent club?

I'm not clinging to any form of hope at all, i think it's good that he's here and it's good to have him in the team but he isn't vital to us at all, if he's here next season, great. If not i don't really care, we'll replace him.

I think you are a very arrogant person if i'm honest, you're somewhat offended that a club like everton may be able to loan your player for more than a season, and you stick to your ritual of believing whatever the paper writes, it may be close to the club but that does not mean they actually know what they are talking about.

He's on loan for a reason, the reason being he wouldn't get into the barca first team. Has he radically improved since the start of the season, no. He's slightly improved, he still has a long way to go before he is ready for your 'great, great' club.
 
Mundo Deportivo is as close to the club as AS is to RM - this is borne out of nearly 15 years of following the club...You're clinging to false hope if we're being honest, it was always a loan with his return a certainty - it was just a matter of it being 1 or 2 seasons and it's clear which it is going to be

It shows little understanding of how a loan nevermind a club like Barcelona works, FC Barcelona rarely loans out players nevermind players they count on...His early success with the Toffees and his ability to constantly create danger in the Premiership underscores how much he is ready for 1st team football and if he's going to get it, why would he get it somewhere other than his parent club?

It's already been confirmed we have an option on another year, and barring an injury crisis at Barca or selling Neymar and Alexis in the summer, there's no reason to see why it won't happen.

Martinez's own words - it's another year "if Barcelona don't need him". I can't imagine a situation where they'll "need" a 19/20 year old raw player given the array of talent they have, and that's before they spend again in the summer.

It's beneficial to all parties to extend the loan.
 
I'm not clinging to any form of hope at all, i think it's good that he's here and it's good to have him in the team but he isn't vital to us at all, if he's here next season, great. If not i don't really care, we'll replace him.

I think you are a very arrogant person if i'm honest, you're somewhat offended that a club like everton may be able to loan your player for more than a season, and you stick to your ritual of believing whatever the paper writes, it may be close to the club but that does not mean they actually know what they are talking about.

He's on loan for a reason, the reason being he wouldn't get into the barca first team. Has he radically improved since the start of the season, no. He's slightly improved, he still has a long way to go before he is ready for your 'great, great' club.

It's as stupid as us believing everything the Echo writes :lol:

Agree with everything you said.
 
It's probably been mentioned when he first signed that this lad has got over 600,000 followers on Twitter. The official Everton FC account has only got 300,000 followers. It's only Twitter and it's far from scientific but it's nuts how huge Barca are when an acedemy kid who hasn't really broke the first team is already a superstar
 

It's already been confirmed we have an option on another year, and barring an injury crisis at Barca or selling Neymar and Alexis in the summer, there's no reason to see why it won't happen.

Martinez's own words - it's another year "if Barcelona don't need him". I can't imagine a situation where they'll "need" a 19/20 year old raw player given the array of talent they have, and that's before they spend again in the summer.

It's beneficial to all parties to extend the loan.


The only time I read about the option, it was always in the context of it being determined by the parent club, not Everton...Even your quote from Martinez echoes that


I'm not clinging to any form of hope at all, i think it's good that he's here and it's good to have him in the team but he isn't vital to us at all, if he's here next season, great. If not i don't really care, we'll replace him.

I think you are a very arrogant person if i'm honest, you're somewhat offended that a club like everton may be able to loan your player for more than a season, and you stick to your ritual of believing whatever the paper writes, it may be close to the club but that does not mean they actually know what they are talking about.

He's on loan for a reason, the reason being he wouldn't get into the barca first team. Has he radically improved since the start of the season, no. He's slightly improved, he still has a long way to go before he is ready for your 'great, great' club.


Yet, you are clinging to that hope...I posted from the first day that Deulofeu was a loan, to enjoy him and that he'd become a fan favorite...but he'd always be returning...My guess was that it would indeed be 2 years but I altered that assessment in December, right before Martino himself and MD reported he'd be with the 1st team next season

I'm sure if I need a psych profile, I could do better than you Aaron, if I'm being honest...Moreover, has little to do with arrogance to believe he'd be returning sooner than later to say nothing of how misguided & baseless your comment about me being offended about him staying with Everton...If I'm being honest, it's arrogant on your part to somehow draw conclusions on what I'm thinking rather than what I am posting

I've seen nothing from him this season that I haven't already seen many times before, albeit against weaker opposition...Competitively, Deulofeu has the profile of a world class talent...He is definitely not there yet but he's shown he can be dominant against strong opposition...But somehow, according to you, a great great club like Barcelona couldn't benefit from that sort of talent from the bench while Everton could

I go by logic and what I see from talent at my club, I've been watching youth players at the club for 7 years now...I look forward to guessing which ones will make it with the first team and which ones won't...Deulofeu has always needed to work on his complete game despite oozing talent which is what brought me to watching him with Everton...It was the first time a counted on talent like that was loaned out, an exception really...I was curious to see how he'd do against better competition than Segunda or U19 teams and it's clear to everyone, including his parent club, that he will come to dominate
 
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Age is irrelevant, particularly when it comes to promoting youth players at Barcelona

Well the relevance here is that he;d return back to barca at the age of 21 an be physically improved, building into the peak of his career.

Promoting youth at everton is also not based on age. Ask rooney or barkley.
 
The only time I read about the option, it was always in the context of it being determined by the parent club, not Everton...Even your quote from Martinez echoes that

well obviously barca will ultimately decide! theres just potential for another year..especially as he's been injured for a good while of his loan, basically nothing has been decided but it is possible
 
Also FCbarca i'm pretty certain you are from america / live in america yourself so i don't think you could get the true feel about how the situation is considered in barca.
 

The idea that Barcelona will "need" Deulofeu is laughable really.

They have Messi who is given an all but free role and Neymar does nothing in defence - the third one in their system tracks back all the time with pace and that's obviously why he's been sent to England to learn tactical discipline.

He won't be in the first team at Barca, he won't even be a guarantee on the bench. The decision will be based on his likelihood of progress at Everton rather than his requirement at Barcelona. If anything, he'll be loaned on to a different club rather than play at the Nou Camp next year.
 
Well the relevance here is that he;d return back to barca at the age of 21 an be physically improved, building into the peak of his career.

Promoting youth at everton is also not based on age. Ask rooney or barkley.

Countless Barcelona 1st teamers debuted or were promoted at 19 or younger


well obviously barca will ultimately decide! theres just potential for another year..especially as he's been injured for a good while of his loan, basically nothing has been decided but it is possible

Which is what I was saying all along, Barcelona will decide and I'm going by MD & Martino that the decision has already been made - which isn't a surprise to me

And of course it is possible that things could change and he could see it extended into a 2nd year, especially if he ends up getting injured again...Just saying that I'm sure the club has seen enough already of him to know his development would be better served continuing at his club rather than on loan...Which would also reflect why Rafinha would be returning as well


Also FCbarca i'm pretty certain you are from america / live in america yourself so i don't think you could get the true feel about how the situation is considered in barca.

I do get the impression that you never tire of being wrong
 
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The idea that Barcelona will "need" Deulofeu is laughable really.

They have Messi who is given an all but free role and Neymar does nothing in defence - the third one in their system tracks back all the time with pace and that's obviously why he's been sent to England to learn tactical discipline.

He won't be in the first team at Barca, he won't even be a guarantee on the bench. The decision will be based on his likelihood of progress at Everton rather than his requirement at Barcelona. If anything, he'll be loaned on to a different club rather than play at the Nou Camp next year.

good point, i wouldnt be surprised to seem at another la liga team as part of his development
 
Yet Deulofeu wasn't. Because he wasn't ready.

He's a raw talent who in all fairness can only be seen as an impact sub at Everton, nevermind Barcelona.

Wrong...Deulofeu made his 1st team debut at 16 years of age back in 2011


good point, i wouldnt be surprised to seem at another la liga team as part of his development

I remember finding it odd that he went to Everton which is a credit to Roberto Martinez because Barcelona wanted him to go to a club in CL and preferably one in Spain...The player himself pushed for a Premiership loan when Roberto reached out which might also be because he had been pursued by English clubs (Liverpool & Arsenal) for years and wanted to see what life in England was like for a footballer...I didn't like the idea at first but have found it to be a smart choice in the end
 
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