Gestures for the the Queen before West Ham game

[andydgg]

It's fine to hold anti-monarchy views, but those who do should still be able to respect a minutes silence on behalf of people who think otherwise.

Away from Everton they can stage protests and campaign for a republic etc. as much as they like without tarnishing the reputation of the club.

Why don't you keep your royalist arse licking away from sport? Worship that family away from us who don't want to worship them. And why the hell should i "respect" a silence when I don't believe the "respect" is warranted? All I've heard is respect respect respect, time and place, shhh, proving yourselves to be happy members of fascist regime.

 

[Kurt.]

Gotta say though …. Kate looks hot in black

 

[Goat]

Gotta say though …. Kate looks hot in black

Gone right off her, shes very ugly on the inside.

 

[Kurt.]

Gone right off her, shes very ugly on the inside.

I’d love to get inside her to find out

 

[Vintage]

It has also opened eyes to those who are tiny little people, with nothing at all about them but vitriol and spite toward anyone who might by happenstance have been born into financially more fortunate circumstances. These little people think themselves bigger by venting their bile toward the more fortunate, regardless of personal qualities or bereavement, and sneer at anyone with empathy and consideration, regardless of how huge a proportion of the population that is. I'm embarrassed to be sharing the same planet, let alone the same club.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Gone right off her, shes very ugly on the inside.

Always could see that about her.

Now, if someone could explain why I couldn't see that about my ex, I would appreciate it.

 

[Pilks]

And why the hell should i "respect" a silence when I don't believe the "respect" is warranted?

I'll tell you why. Because by the very nature of a 'silence', any heckling it ends up as the only voice by default, and leaves those wanting to show respect unable to answer back without further disruption. Making noise during a respectful silence is the 'protest' of a coward. That's why.

Oh, and because it's for someone who has recently passed away, whoever that was. If your mother or wife passed away next week, would you appreciate it if some guys who didn't like her showed up at the crematorium and heckled while the coffin went through the curtains, and damn the feelings of you and yours?

This whole thing is NOTHING to do with being 'royalist' or not, and EVERYTHING to do with basic human decency

If you can't see that, then it's your problem. I personally couldn't stand Diana, for example, but I wouldn't have jeered during a silence. Consideration for others' viewpoints, and also the good name of the club, cost nothing.

But I appreciate I'm probably talking into a vacuum here, as I'll be accused of being a serf or whatever. For the record, I had no issue with the Queen, but I always liked Charles more, if only because he actually cares about the planet, and at least tries to use his position to encourage change, but that's a different matter.

Embarrassingly Kopite behaviour, some of this.

 

[WA Toffee]

Genuine question …and please don’t take this as provocative.. but why should people pay deference to others when they strongly feel against what it is they stood for ? I get people wanting to show respect to the queen which is a normal and human reaction but there seems to be a bit of hypocrisy in regards to the vitriol directed at those who feel very anti monarchy and want to show this .. which is their right.. although I personally don’t agree with shouts during a funeral procession but surely if you wish to show your respect freely then you have ti accept some others feel differently and have as much right to convey this as others do who condone it. That’s just my thinking anyway.

It's a fair question.
I think the difference though, is one group are typing into an internet forum which allows for a two way conversation and really has no consequence to anyone outside that forum.

The other group are booing during a minutes silence. Which is heard around the world.

Also worth remembering no one is asking for people to show respect for royalty, they are just asking them to show respect for the minutes silence. Unfortunately a lot of people don't seem capable of understanding the difference.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

Boo the national anthem.

Stay silent during the minute silence.

That's me.

I can’t support the booing of the national anthem and the flag that my father died for.

Booing anyone’s national anthem is an unnecessary provocation and paints us as a club in a bad way.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I can’t support the booing of the national anthem and the flag that my father died for.

Booing anyone’s national anthem is an unnecessary provocation and paints us as a club in a bad way.

Funny that my grandfather died to allow me to have the freedom to choose.

 

[Groucho]

Aye I’d like to thank the site for keeping this thread open really. Dead impressed.

Yeah fill your boots and that

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I think that emotion, patriotism and a day on the nations favourite juniper based spirit got to a few in here yesterday.

 

[Glasshalffull]

Funny that my grandfather died to allow me to have the freedom to choose.

Yes, mate. You and I are free to choose to believe women to be inferior, think badly of people with different ethnicity, not wash for 6 months and stand close to people in queues, openly leer at young women, and loudly make sick jokes about people with a disability. Despite there being no law against any of that, we'd still both be entirely out of order if we did any of it, and might reasonably expect the majority of people to animatedly express their disapproval. Stuff that's legal can still be very, very, wrong.

 

[Glasshalffull]

I think that emotion, patriotism and a day on the nations favourite juniper based spirit got to a few in here yesterday.

I did imbibe a gin, or two, to be fair. Still right, though.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

I'll tell you why. Because by the very nature of a 'silence', any heckling it ends up as the only voice by default, and leaves those wanting to show respect unable to answer back without further disruption. Making noise during a respectful silence is the 'protest' of a coward. That's why.

Oh, and because it's for someone who has recently passed away, whoever that was. If your mother or wife passed away next week, would you appreciate it if some guys who didn't like her showed up at the crematorium and heckled while the coffin went through the curtains, and damn the feelings of you and yours?

This whole thing is NOTHING to do with being 'royalist' or not, and EVERYTHING to do with basic human decency

If you can't see that, then it's your problem. I personally couldn't stand Diana, for example, but I wouldn't have jeered during a silence. Consideration for others' viewpoints, and also the good name of the club, cost nothing.

But I appreciate I'm probably talking into a vacuum here, as I'll be accused of being a serf or whatever. For the record, I had no issue with the Queen, but I always liked Charles more, if only because he actually cares about the planet, and at least tries to use his position to encourage change, but that's a different matter.

Embarrassingly Kopite behaviour, some of this.

Tell me did you respect Charles more before or after he told a married Camilla that he wished he was her tampon?

I can’t support the booing of the national anthem and the flag that my father died for.

Booing anyone’s national anthem is an unnecessary provocation and paints us as a club in a bad way.

Don't make this personal. The words are plain daft - glorifying war and for a public begging for a hairy assed eejit to "reign" over ye. Get out! Ultimately Charlie boy is flesh and bones and I'm not bowing down to any man.