GOT Fitness LOG

[SteKelly]

..... why do you need a personal trainer??

I don't

My mate is looking for one so thought i'd post on here to see.

I wouldn't pay 20quid a lesson lad you messin for someone to tell me what to do.

 

[maddison]

I don't

My mate is looking for one so thought i'd post on here to see.

I wouldn't pay 20quid a lesson lad you messin for someone to tell me what to do.

Generally when asked this question by a friend, the appropriate response is to slap them hard across the face so that they can come to their senses

 

[steken1]

Generally when asked this question by a friend, the appropriate response is to slap them hard across the face so that they can come to their senses

Makes sense for some people Madd. Too many piss poor trainers with no real background in anything have devalued the whole thing like.

 

[Baines' left foot]

I've been slowly getting back into the gym over the last couple of weeks after about 3 months off it. I'm weak as [Poor language removed] but I've still got a bit of muscle left fortunately. I hate that I'm so uncommitted.

 

[maddison]

Makes sense for some people Madd. Too many piss poor trainers with no real background in anything have devalued the whole thing like.

I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but my experience of people I know who are personal trainers are that they are piss poor.

Example (thank goodness they don't read this thread!):
I know two lads who are personal trainers, both are clueless but are tall good looking and that seems to be enough. It's like the blind leading the blind.
I know an ex figure competitor who is a peronsal trainer, she is totally clueless. The advise she's given some people and had to be corrected by some of the guys in the gym is shocking. She's had people doing a pre competition diet for weight loss, when the people don't even lift weights! Not to mention they weren't on the drugs she was on. She's advised guys against core work because it will 'thicken' their waist. A girl who would train her shoulders for four weeks before a comp and no more, who never trained hard a day in her life, and advises clients against squatting....... she actually doesn't know how to squat which is why she does it, because she can't teach them the movement.
I can think of three other examples that are equally as shocking, typical fitness/ figure competitors (women).
And I even know a pro bodybuilder (IFBB) who doesn't know much about training either, he was coached and told what to take and do by other people. Now he just rehashes the advice with no idea why it was given and sells gear. Genetically he is a freak, total super responder. The running commentary in the gym though is that if he actually could train properly, and train hard, he'd be much much better than he is.

I personally just think that the personal trainers out there do a little course, and possibly have good intentions, but are unfortunately taking peoples money when they know about as much as the average joe would after flicking through a copy of mens health

I'm sure some of the cross fit trainers are okish. Personally though I'd look for a weightlifting coach, as in clean and jerk/ snatch, you're more likely to get top level advice and training from them. Even if you have no interest in the Oly lifts. Powerlifting can be hit and miss, although there are some very knowledgeable guys. Bodybuilders, more hit than miss, although for diet and gear advice they are very very good.

With the fitness stuff, find a competitive runner/ cyclist/ tri athlete. They'll know about how to cycle your training for the best results.

For general fitness, as in health, you really don't need to do that much though.

 

[SteKelly]

I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but my experience of people I know who are personal trainers are that they are piss poor.

Yeah, there is one PT I have seen just then on twitter in Liverpool. has a Christmas offer on now, 10 lessons for 100quid. He does the likes of Duffy and McAleny.

https://twitter.com/lukepowellPT

Looks decent like, I'd rather go with someone who looks in shape rather than someone who isn't and charges 30quid

 

[steken1]

I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but my experience of people I know who are personal trainers are that they are piss poor.

Example (thank goodness they don't read this thread!):
I know two lads who are personal trainers, both are clueless but are tall good looking and that seems to be enough. It's like the blind leading the blind.
I know an ex figure competitor who is a peronsal trainer, she is totally clueless. The advise she's given some people and had to be corrected by some of the guys in the gym is shocking. She's had people doing a pre competition diet for weight loss, when the people don't even lift weights! Not to mention they weren't on the drugs she was on. She's advised guys against core work because it will 'thicken' their waist. A girl who would train her shoulders for four weeks before a comp and no more, who never trained hard a day in her life, and advises clients against squatting....... she actually doesn't know how to squat which is why she does it, because she can't teach them the movement.
I can think of three other examples that are equally as shocking, typical fitness/ figure competitors (women).
And I even know a pro bodybuilder (IFBB) who doesn't know much about training either, he was coached and told what to take and do by other people. Now he just rehashes the advice with no idea why it was given and sells gear. Genetically he is a freak, total super responder. The running commentary in the gym though is that if he actually could train properly, and train hard, he'd be much much better than he is.

I personally just think that the personal trainers out there do a little course, and possibly have good intentions, but are unfortunately taking peoples money when they know about as much as the average joe would after flicking through a copy of mens health

I'm sure some of the cross fit trainers are okish. Personally though I'd look for a weightlifting coach, as in clean and jerk/ snatch, you're more likely to get top level advice and training from them. Even if you have no interest in the Oly lifts. Powerlifting can be hit and miss, although there are some very knowledgeable guys. Bodybuilders, more hit than miss, although for diet and gear advice they are very very good.

With the fitness stuff, find a competitive runner/ cyclist/ tri athlete. They'll know about how to cycle your training for the best results.

For general fitness, as in health, you really don't need to do that much though.

No mate, I agree. I was a trainer myself for years. Used to work with a fella who put people on every machine in the f=gym for five sets to 'muscle build'. Lads where in there for three hours a night not putting an ounce on.

I always found the trainers who know diet inside out get the best results for people. That was the angle I took. You don't really need to do anything radical with the majority of people you come across. Get the diet right and everything else falls into place.

 

[SteKelly]

No mate, I agree. I was a trainer myself for years. Used to work with a fella who put people on every machine in the f=gym for five sets to 'muscle build'. Lads where in there for three hours a night not putting an ounce on.

I always found the trainers who know diet inside out get the best results for people. That was the angle I took. You don't really need to do anything radical with the majority of people you come across. Get the diet right and everything else falls into place.

Robbing basstard

 

[steken1]

Yeah, there is one PT I have seen just then on twitter in Liverpool. has a Christmas offer on now, 10 lessons for 100quid. He does the likes of Duffy and McAleny.

https://twitter.com/lukepowellPT

Looks decent like, I'd rather go with someone who looks in shape rather than someone who isn't and charges 30quid

He's just their mate ste. think they're just doing him a favour. They've got access to S&C bods with backgrounds in elite performance that will have years of knowledge in the bank.

Not saying the lads not good, I don't know him, just saying.

 

[steken1]

Robbing basstard

haha, wut.

 

[SteKelly]

He's just their mate ste. think they're just doing him a favour. They've got access to S&C bods with backgrounds in elite performance that will have years of knowledge in the bank.

Not saying the lads not good, I don't know him, just saying.

Got a point there. Just seen he charges 20 for a meal plan. You can go online and get them for free ffs.

 

[maddison]

Yeah, there is one PT I have seen just then on twitter in Liverpool. has a Christmas offer on now, 10 lessons for 100quid. He does the likes of Duffy and McAleny.

https://twitter.com/lukepowellPT

Looks decent like, I'd rather go with someone who looks in shape rather than someone who isn't and charges 30quid

Unfortunately that's part of the trickery though mate, lots of people who look like they are in shape are just genetically gifted. It doesn't actually mean they know what they are doing.

Contrast that with one of the top strength coaches in the world, who'd you'd just think was a grumpy old man. The head Russian powerlifting coach looked like he'd never been anywhere near a gym!

Just had a little nose at the guy on the twitter link, probably more of a chance of him knowing what he's doing from the types of training he's listing. He's more likely to have done some reading and experimented first hand with what works and doesn't etc.

The main thing you want from a trainer is someone who knows how to coach technique, and someone who knows how to train you for your specific goals. Knowing how to train someone will also necessitate you knowing how to change things up if what they're doing isn't working, and that doesn't mean changing from four sets to five, or mixing some exercises about because it's a different movement.

 

[SteKelly]

haha, wut.

Trainers who made people go on every machine and not gain anything. They were probably people who didn't have a clue what they were doing and the trainer is just sitting there laughing.

 

[maddison]

No mate, I agree. I was a trainer myself for years. Used to work with a fella who put people on every machine in the f=gym for five sets to 'muscle build'. Lads where in there for three hours a night not putting an ounce on.

I always found the trainers who know diet inside out get the best results for people. That was the angle I took. You don't really need to do anything radical with the majority of people you come across. Get the diet right and everything else falls into place.

You know where I'm coming from at least

He's just their mate ste. think they're just doing him a favour. They've got access to S&C bods with backgrounds in elite performance that will have years of knowledge in the bank.

Not saying the lads not good, I don't know him, just saying.

I stand corrected

Got a point there. Just seen he charges 20 for a meal plan. You can go online and get them for free ffs.

You'd be surprised how many pay that, and a shed load more for eating plans!!

 

[Librarian]

Did a sit-up this morning.