Graham Potter - Poll

[d34noj]

Very harsh to say he ‘spectacularly flopped’ in the Prem. Thought he was brilliant at Wolves and left Spurs considerably higher than where they are now after they didn’t give him a chance.

Oh I agree mate, what i'd do for 8 wins in 17 games right now.

 

[jazzy]

If he had any sense he’ll choose West Ham.

If it just a choice between their squad and ours then I agree no contest it's Wham every time.

However what if Wham only offer him a deal to the end of the season ( as reported) whereas we offer a 2.5 year deal ( say ) ?

What if TFG offer him the prospect of a complete rebuild with funds and say that they have his bessie Dan Ashworth in the can to take over from Kev ?

There are so many imponderables that we don't know about.

 

[paultheblue]

Dyche must go now so we have to trust FKN to bring the right man in for the job.
Is Potter the right man ? Nobody knows but let's just get behind him whoever it is

 

[pink toffees]

We dont need a crisis manager. Dyche was 100% a crisis manager. The club is now financially stable. My thing with Dyche is he has checked out and the players can see that. TFG came in and we had just beaten Wolves and drew against Chelsea City and Arsenal. Thats why they let it be known they wanted to give Dyche a chance. They probably thought lets get to the summer and we can then make the change. But results since have been abysmal and stats even worse. I had read before they came in that Potter was one of the names high on their list. So it would be obvious that they move now for him given the current circumstances. He maybe not their No1 choice but there was no guarantee in the summer they would get thir first choice either. So Welcome to EFC David Moyes

 

[MikeH72]

The goalkeeper and centre halves are the strength of the team. We don't need a manager to make us more solid, we need someone to teach us basic pass and move which will allow us to create 2 or 3 chances a game in open play.

Nobody thinks the squad is good and top half quality or anything like that. But the team is still hugely underperforming in attack and failing to score in 7 out of 10 games is beyond dreadful.

We need someone to coach us properly to create chances. We don't need a park the bus manager. The centre halves and goalkeeper are more than good enough, its the rest of the squad that is very poor.

I think people hear “crisis manager” and immediately think parking 10 behind the ball and playing for 0-0 draws. That’s not the only way to drag yourself away from a relegation battle, look at how Iraola has done it at Bournemouth, even Nuno at Forest who took over when they were floundering near the bottom. They’re defensively strong but they also have an effective plan to score goals from open play. It’s not 2005 anymore, Allardyce and Pulis tactics aren’t the be all and end all for a struggling team.

Our next manager unfortunately needs to have a track record of picking a team up off the floor and pulling them away from danger, because that’s the position our current manager has left us in. 2 years on from when he took over, we are in a near identical position, except back then we could occasionally string a pass together and threaten the opposition keeper from open play.

 

[JLW]

People aren't going to like it, but TFG should be looking at 22/23 if the situation is as desperate. Dyche took us over in game week 22 on 15 pts and kept us up. We're currently on 17 having played 19 game weeks, but going into game week 21.

So what's the point in getting a new crisis manager on a long contract just because people are bored of the face of the current crisis manager?

And another point, if these lads can play football that yields better results than we're currently getting, then why not just go for a non crisis manager and stay up with better football?

We do not need a crisis manager at all!

There isn’t 7-8 games left there’s still 19 to play for.

I guarantee whoever the new man is and I may not agree with the choice of the next fella that he gets to 3 wins (Dyches record so far) within the 7-8 games.

That’s how bad this current manager is and how not so bad this squad is made out to be.

 

[windymiller]

He's not saying keep Dyche, he's saying why change one crisis manager for another?

Depends on your definition of a crisis manager - for me, Dyche was hired as a "crisis manager" given we sat 19th, with our lowest ever points total after 20 games having lost 11 in 14, with just sold Gordon/couldn't spend as we got into February.

There wasn't many wanting the job either, Bielsa jibbed us.

Benitez, and Lampard weren't hired as "crisis" managers. Dyche was. We don't need another if the view is we're underperforming and the issue is the manager.

Lampard definitely was hired as a crisis manager, he wouldn't have got a sniff if we were looking for a manager in the summer that year. Benitez wasn't, I agree, Usmanov wanted a "name" and that's what he came up with.

I agree that we should be looking for a more permanent solution, and I also agree that a mid-season change isn't ideal if that is the plan. But we are where we are in the table and Dyche looks bereft of ideas (as you know, I'm of the opinion that he doesn't have many ideas even when he's doing ok, but that is besides the point), I'm of the opinion a change needs to happen now which is unfortunate for our options.

On the plus side, new ownership and, seemingly, with higher revenues from the new stadium and, hopefully, the new sponsorship that will also bring means that we should be on a more sure footing financially which may make us marginally more attractive to managerial candidates. It also looks like we have some latitude to bring some players in this window as well, which is very much needed in addition to the managerial changes required. It's a shame that any new personnel will be acquired without the input of a new manager but perhaps we're going to see an actual DoF role in effect as opposed to whatever Moshiri was doing on that front when he was in charge of the club.

 

[Ruairi77]

Did a great job at Brighton, but so did the following managers, including some doing better. You can argue that he put the fundations there for the subsequent managers to be successful.

you could say the exact same thing for Chris hughton but no one wants him.

I really dont get the Potter shouts. Yeah, he did well in scandanavia and at BHA but he failed at Chelsea, and sure, Chelsea are a circus but that fella Maresca seems to be doing well.
If we're looking at how he did in Sweden, maybe we should be looking at the likes of Knutsen.

Potter has a hit and miss record in the PL
I think part of the reason he failed at chelsea was an inability to cope with a pressure cooker environment.
He showed how easily he was rattled with minimal fan disapproval at BHA
None of that bodes well for him if he goes to Everton.
If I'm not mistaken, he also swore by Neal Maupay.

Just scout around Europe and South America for a manager doing an incredible job,
Again, that's someone like Knutsen but there are bound to be more.

Not sure why we'd limit our search to an out of work manager who failed at his only big club appointment.

 

[Mashtray]

"The Everton Project" 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025

 

[Lanolin]

Yeah, but it's not because the Park End da's gave them a vigorous booing. The ultras in Italy storm the training ground and rock up at coach's houses, FFS, but "booooooo" and grown men are going to cry. Behave.

I don't think it's about being scared for your safety though, it's about the pressure. I do think the Everton job is almost unique in terms of the disconnect between what is actually possible for a manager to do and what the fanbase expects from them. You have to be a certain type of individual to be able to deal with the pressure that comes with a job like this, I have no idea whether Potter is or isn't, but I do understand what people mean when they ask the question.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Very much on the fence.

Has been at least semi-successful at his other clubs (barring Chelsea) but there's just something about him that doesn't seem a good fit for Everton to me..

Means we need to change.
We won't.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Lampard definitely was hired as a crisis manager, he wouldn't have got a sniff if we were looking for a manager in the summer that year. Benitez wasn't, I agree, Usmanov wanted a "name" and that's what he came up with.

It comes down to interpretation over a crisis manager which to me is Allardyce, Moyes, Dyche - tried and tested - who'd hire Frank Lampard as a crisis manager? He was seen as progressive at the time - we were 16th/a few results above the drop and the consensus was we were just in a terrible rut under a disliked manager.

We didnt have many choices but between Pereira an Lampard, they eventually went for the choice they felt would unite the club.

I agree that we should be looking for a more permanent solution, and I also agree that a mid-season change isn't ideal if that is the plan. But we are where we are in the table and Dyche looks bereft of ideas (as you know, I'm of the opinion that he doesn't have many ideas even when he's doing ok, but that is besides the point), I'm of the opinion a change needs to happen now which is unfortunate for our options.

It needs to happen solely because we're not good enough to have a glorified interim manager with half a team not invested in next season.

But if your view is we're only 16th because of Sean Dyche and we can't possibly get any worse, if this is as bad as we can be - then we don't need to be looking at a crisis manager. They can hire whoever they like as surely the only way is up?

 

[NathDogg]

Tbf I’m in the “anyone but Dyche” camp now, so feck it, welcome Potter.

Would he be my first choice? Probably not, but beggars can’t be choosers.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

We do not need a crisis manager at all!

There isn’t 7-8 games left there’s still 19 to play for.

I guarantee whoever the new man is and I may not agree with the choice of the next fella that he gets to 3 wins (Dyches record so far) within the 7-8 games.

That’s how bad this current manager is and how not so bad this squad is made out to be.

New manager bounce eh?

Everton's Premier League season

Sean Dyche - 2 wins from 3 games

Frank Lampard - 3 wins from 20 games

What a job Sean Dyche is doing...

Despite taking charge of just seven games, Sean Dyche has already won as many Premier League games with Everton this season (3) as Frank Lampard did (3/20)

Everton have kept 3 clean sheets in 7 games since Dyche appointed. Prior to that, Everton kept 4 clean sheets in 20 games August-January.

 

[blue to the bone]

If i was Potter and I'd a choice between Everton and West ham .
Easy decision.
I'd stay retired