Green light for the Super League?

[Goat]

You're deflecting

We'll see what comes next, what is clear is that the law was on Super League's side and that UEFA/FIFA have indeed acted as monopolies

Kinda ironic that a Barca or Real "fan" uses the word monopoly.

 

[Drico]

You're deflecting

We'll see what comes next, what is clear is that the law was on Super League's side and that UEFA/FIFA have indeed acted as monopolies

You're destroying football.

UEFA's competition approval rules - which are what's in question - have already been updated. I'm no fan of UEFA, but if you want others to move away from UEFA you have got to be less nasty than them. And the Ugly Sisters are utterly vile.

 

[Drico]

Correct, I'm just furthering the question of why the PL clubs would even consider giving rival clubs (RM, Barca, Bayern, PSG) a better platform to compete with them in European competitions.

If they think it'll make them more money, they'll forego the need to actually compete and win anymore.

 

[Drico]

They aren't both, that's the point. They are a business that acted like a tyrannical govt

There may be futility in it, no question, since money absolutely ruining the game but competition forces evolution

UEFA governs European football. That's a matter of widely-accepted simple fact. Whether they govern it well is a different matter. But only the maddest one-eyed capitalist or entitled Real Madrid/Barcelona "fan" thinks Florentino Perez and Joan Laporta have anyone's best interests at heart other than their own.

 

[Drico]

We already know the original plan has been scrapped so no point to consider that a barometer. The mere fact that so many were eager for it at first underscores the lack of free market competition to begin with. So there is a path and it's not simply the status quo

"The lack of free market competition" - so spoke the representative of the Madrid/Barcelona cartel.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I don't agree, I think it was the Hillsborough disaster coupled with Italia 90. Once all seater stadia came in the atmosphere reduced and the gentrification of football began.

Those were definitely factors but they came later. The initial catalyst for a "clean up" of the working mans game was instigated by Liverpool fans disgusting behaviour in Belgium.

 

[hallamblue]

Those were definitely factors but they came later. The initial catalyst for a "clean up" of the working mans game was instigated by Liverpool fans disgusting behaviour in Belgium.

To be fair to the rs, which I don't like, there were numerous examples of hooliganism at that time, we were the exception really, although not immune ourselves domestically.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

To be fair to the rs, which I don't like, there were numerous examples of hooliganism at that time, we were the exception really, although not immune ourselves domestically.

Not sure I follow. What do you mean?

 

[hallamblue]

Not sure I follow. What do you mean?

There were incidents prior to Heysel. It was the straw that broke the camel's back after several years of incidents involving English clubs, hence the ban for all clubs.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

There were incidents prior to Heysel. It was the straw that broke the camel's back after several years of incidents involving English clubs, hence the ban for all clubs.

There was literally nothing on the same scale as the catastrophe caused by Liverpool fans.

 

[Old Blue 2]

You're deflecting

We'll see what comes next, what is clear is that the law was on Super League's side and that UEFA/FIFA have indeed acted as monopolies

I don't disagree with what I have put in bold above from your post, but given that there was not another identical organisation in being up to present, the term 'monopoly' in defining a single entity is somwhat disingenuous from the EU Court.

 

[FCBarça]

I don't disagree with what I have put in bold above from your post, but given that there was not another identical organisation in being up to present, the term 'monopoly' in defining a single entity is somwhat disingenuous from the EU Court.

If you can‘t make the link to the fact that the reason there is no other identical organization or competition is clearly because UEFA & FIFA acted as monopolies, not sure what facts will help

 

[FCBarça]

UEFA governs European football. That's a matter of widely-accepted simple fact. Whether they govern it well is a different matter. But only the maddest one-eyed capitalist or entitled Real Madrid/Barcelona "fan" thinks Florentino Perez and Joan Laporta have anyone's best interests at heart other than their own.

Widely accepted does not translate to fact, rather their monopoly led to obligation rather than acceptance

The mere fact you lump the capital club with a member owned club fundamentally highlights how little you comprehend

 

[FCBarça]

Kinda ironic that a Barca or Real "fan" uses the word monopoly.

Kinda sad some ‘fans’ don’t actually understand what a monopoly is apart from it being a board game

 

[John from Bootle]

Kinda sad some ‘fans’ don’t actually understand what a monopoly is apart from it being a board game

None of us care mate. No English clubs want any part of it. Even if they did, the govt. has already stated this week that they will stop them.

You just stick to your 2 horse race that doesn't get as many viewers as us