chrismpw
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Seems scientifically legit.
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Groucho's Fact Hunt
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Within Germany, there are sixteen Bundesländer, which are the individual states that make up the Federal Republic (Bundesrepublik).
It's typically more united than the American system, but they do have proud heritage and each state has responsibility for legislation, judiciary etc.
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah. My curiosity got the better of me a while back and I read that 'bund' meant 'association'. I suppose translation is often loose but asociación and federation are very similar in this context.
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Are they based around the old states like bavaria, Saxony, Prussia etc?
Perhaps he was looking for the 'Groucho's Fiction Hunt' thread.
Many believe the rumours of such a thread, although it has never been scientifically proven to exist.
It can do if used as a root-word in some other words: for example Bündnis is an alliance. Bund can also be used as a 'bond' as well in some contexts.
Yes... ish. You do have states like Bavaria, Saxony, Hesse etc. that historically have been old states, but there's a few defunct and amalgamations over time.
For example, Prussia stretched from modern-day Poland and had sovereignty over many of the other states including Saxony (the West) in their history.
More likely to have stepped in stray dog poo
Saarland didn't become a member of the W. Germany Federation until 1956 and actually competed in the
1954 World Cup Qualifiers. And beat Norway 3-2, then Drew 0-0, Lost to W Germany 1-3 & 0-3
Most things are after a night on the ale
While originally a territory governed by Bavaria and Prussia, it's close proximity and ties with France has always meant it's had mixed loyalties to some degree.
Obviously, it isn't as simple as that but you get the jist of it. Most people there can speak French and I do know they're pushing for equal weighting of the two.
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The 1954 WC Final was...lets call it 'Interesting', especially in light of the klopp / rs / magic juice theories...alegedlly
The Wankdorf Stadion in Berne saw 60,000 people cram inside to watch the final between West Germany and Hungary, a rematch of a first-round game, which Hungary had won 8–3 against the reserves of the German team. The Golden Team of the Hungarians were favourites, as they were unbeaten for a record of 32 consecutive matches, but they had had two tough knockout matches. It started raining on match day – in Germany this was dubbed Fritz-Walter-Wetter ("Fritz Walter's weather") because the West German team captain Fritz Walter was said to play his best in the rain. Adi Dassler had provided shoes with exchangeable studs.
Card autographed by coach Sepp Herberger and the 11 German players that appeared in the final
Hungary's Ferenc Puskás played again in the final, even though he was not fully fit. Despite this he put his team ahead after only six minutes and with Zoltán Czibor adding another two minutes later it seemed that the pre-tournament favourites would take the title. However, with a quick goal from Max Morlock in the 10th and the equaliser of Helmut Rahn in the 19th, the tide began to turn.
The second half saw telling misses by the Hungarian team. Barely six minutes before the end of the match, the popular German radio reporter Herbert Zimmermann gave the most famous German piece of commentary, recommending that "Rahn should shoot from deep", which he did. The second goal from Rahn gave West Germany a 3–2 lead while the Hungarian reporter György Szepesi burst into tears. Later, Zimmermann called Puskás offside before he kicked the ball into Toni Turek's net with 2 minutes left. While referee Ling pointed to the centre spot, linesman Griffiths signalled offside. After a one-minute consultation, referee Ling disallowed the claimed equaliser.
The West Germans were handed the Jules Rimet Trophy and the title of World Cup winners, while the crowd sang along to the tune of the national anthem of West Germany. In Germany the success is known as "The Miracle of Berne", upon which a 2003 film of the same name was based. For the Hungarians, the defeat was a disaster, and remains controversial due to claimed referee errors and claims of doping.
One controversy concerns the 2–2 equaliser. Hungarian goalie Gyula Grosics jumped to catch Fritz Walter's corner shot, but in plain sight of the camera, Hans Schäfer obstructed him, and so the ball reached Rahn unhindered.
The second controversy concerns allegations of doping to explain the better condition of the West German team in the second half.
Though teammates steadfastly denied this rumour, German historian Guido Knopp claimed in a 2004 documentary for German public channel ZDF[8] that the players were injected with shots of vitamin C at half-time, using a needle earlier taken from a Soviet sports doctor, which would also explain the wave of jaundice among team members following the tournament. A Leipzig University study in 2010 posited that the West German players had been injected with the banned substance methamphetamine.[9]
Most controversial was the offside ruling for Puskás's intended 87th-minute equaliser. The camera filming the official footage was in a bad position to judge the situation, but eyewitnesses claimed that the referee was wrong, including West German substitute player Alfred Pfaff.[10] However, since then, unofficial footage surfaced evidencing no offside (shown on North German regional public channel NDR in 2004.[11])
Everybody will be famous for 15mins - really?
prepare yourselves - it won't happen
*8billion X (.25hr) 15mins = 2billion hours ÷ 24 = 83,333,333.333333 days ÷ 365.25 = 228,154yrs, aka, don't hold your breath
*check my maths as I have trouble with decimal points - but its not looking good on the fame stakes
prepare yourselves - it won't happen
*8billion X (.25hr) 15mins = 2billion hours ÷ 24 = 83,333,333.333333 days ÷ 365.25 = 228,154yrs, aka, don't hold your breath
*check my maths as I have trouble with decimal points - but its not looking good on the fame stakes
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
I think people can be famous simultaneously.
Well lets see then..
How many people can be famous for 15mins in a day?
24 × 4 = 96
What sort of fame are we talking here? World, National, Local, like on your local radio? when do you stop being famous and become, when your name is mentioned a - yeah, I know him, or - who?
Lets round that 96 up to 100.
How many 100s can be simultaneously famous for one given day in the UK
65,000,000 ÷ 100 = 650,000.
So in any one 15 mins of simultaneous fame in the UK, 6,500 will be famous at one time?
And you're one in 6,500? that's not fame that's nearly anonymity.
I stress yet again that maths is not my strong point, but this whole fame deal is on shaky ground.
Next weeks topic;
FAME ! - I'm going to live for ever. Fact or Fiction?
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
First off, I don't think Warhol meant it literally.
Secondly, I got the impression that you're original post was implying that there wasn't enough time for every single person on the planet to be famous for 15 minutes each, one at a time.
I certainly don't think Warhol meant it in that way
Finally, my point about more than one person being famous simultaneously certainly wasn't meant to imply that everyone would be famous simultaneously and certainly not on the same day.