Group C: Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, England

[barneygumble]

Keegan and taylor were abit before my time so can't really give my opinion on them, but I don't get the whole brought pride back and that, he's been lucky almost every tournament in the draws he's been given, every single time we have faced a decent ( not even good ) team in any tournament we've bene knocked out.

The only one game he's won is Germany in the last euros, a way below par Germany team at Wembley, every other decent team have beat us. He's a terrible manager.

Get him gone ASAP and get someone decent in to make the most out of this squad.

Can add McLaren to the bad managers.

Keegan was a dinosaur of a manager, struggled to qualify for Euro2000, just about scrapping past Scotland in a playoff.

Then couldn't get out the group, before he cowardly bailed on England following defeat go Germany at last game at Wembley.
Taylor famously bottled qualification for USA '94.

My point re. Southgate is he made players care about playing for England again. He made fans want to watch England again.

Players continuously withdrew from squads; there was no togetherness which was reflected by dismal 2014, 2016 campaigns. I genuinely believe he restored the pride in representing England and watching them (I realise in liverpool it's different, but nevertheless).

Wembley was getting 60,000 for most games now it sells out for Andorra on a Tuesday. He's been his own worst enemy, his time is up, but some of his hard work will hopefully be continued.

He's been exactly what England needed, but that's the end of the line now, go get a attack minded manager and try win the World Cup.

 

[witchdoc187]

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Quick lads, Crabland were crap again, we need to find an Everton player to blame

What does the article say?

 

[Drico]

So, from what I can surmise, England play Holland UNLESS the Czechs beat Turkey or the Georgians beat Portugal.

Croatia are eliminated and the only question now is whether the formula for distribution of the third-placed sides in the draw is CDEF or ACDE.

As of tonight, the table is:

1. Group D - Holland 4 (GD 0)
2. Group E - Slovakia/ Group C - Slovenia 3 (GD 0)
4. Group A - Hungary 3 (GD -3)
5. Group B - Croatia 2 (GD -2)
6. Group F - Czech Rep 1 (GD -1)

So, it's ACDE tonight, which means England v. Holland.

Slovakia and Romania will SURELY play for a draw in their game as it guarantees both progress. Prepare for West Germany v Austria 1982. If so, the lowest points total for third place in that group is 4 points, as Belgium and Ukraine also have 3 and play each other. So that means Group E will be part of the formula.

So, it's a question if Group F can muscle in instead of Group A - Hungary, who are currently the side in jeopardy.

That means the formula is either ACDE or CDEF.

If it's CDEF then England play 3E - whichever of Romania, Slovakia, or Ukraine finish third. Belgium cannot finish third. They either win the group (with a win, if there is a draw in the other game), finish second (with a draw or a win if the other game produces a winner), or last - if they lose to Ukraine. If both games end in a draw, Romania win the group.

 

[witchdoc187]

Gordon and Palmer in for the next game. Bellingham and Saka out. Mainoo or Wharton in for Gallagher

He isn't gonna change anything though is he. But the pressure on these lads is mental. Bellingham carried Madrid all season now has to carry his national team at what 20? Pickford hasn't had a save to make. Yet the whole nation is booing these kids.

 

[ChesterBlue]

What does the article say?

It’s a ladbible article, basically a collation of hogs on Twitter saying he’s bad for being annoyed at fans throwing his gloves back at him

 

[gonetomorrow]

I have no faith in us getting any further but, we've won the group at a canter. That booing is absolutely shocking and counter productive. England fans are seriously backwards.

Frightful behaviour. They should stick to singing The Great Escape the fat bald types.

 

[witchdoc187]

It’s a ladbible article, basically a collation of hogs on Twitter saying he’s bad for being annoyed at fans throwing his gloves back at him

Did they do that? For keeping a clean sheet? Need to get behind the team. No way that will spur them on

 

[witchdoc187]

Frightful behaviour. They should stick to singing The Great Escape the fat bald types.

Spain beat Albania 1-0 the press here didn't murder them for it. Our press and fans are not helping in the slightest.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

Footballs answer to Taylor swift

Taylor Swift's albums are at least tolerable listening, she's miles ahead of Waistcoatball over there

 

[barneygumble]

So, from what I can surmise, England play Holland UNLESS the Czechs beat Turkey or the Georgians beat Portugal.

Croatia are eliminated and the only question now is whether the formula for distribution of the third-placed sides in the draw is CDEF or ACDE.

As of tonight, the table is:

1. Group D - Holland 4 (GD 0)
2. Group E - Slovakia/ Group C - Slovenia 3 (GD 0)
4. Group A - Hungary 3 (GD -3)
5. Group B - Croatia 2 (GD -2)
6. Group F - Czech Rep 1 (GD -1)

So, it's ACDE tonight, which means England v. Holland.

Slovakia and Romania will SURELY play for a draw in their game as it guarantees both progress. Prepare for West Germany v Austria 1982. If so, the lowest points total for third place in that group is 4 points, as Belgium and Ukraine also have 3 and play each other. So that means Group E will be part of the formula.

So, it's a question if Group F can muscle in instead of Group A - Hungary, who are currently the side in jeopardy.

That means the formula is either ACDE or CDEF.

If it's CDEF then England play 3E - whichever of Romania, Slovakia, or Ukraine finish third. Belgium cannot finish third. They either win the group (with a win, if there is a draw in the other game), finish second (with a draw or a win if the other game produces a winner), or last - if they lose to Ukraine. If both games end in a draw, Romania win the group.

Czech had some truly rotten decisions so far, so there's a chance there.

Turkey looked all over the shop against Portugal.

If that happened, it'd be Belgium Vs. Netherlands, which would be a cracker.

 

[Drico]

Czech had some truly rotten decisions so far, so there's a chance there.

Turkey looked all over the shop against Portugal.

If that happened, it'd be Belgium Vs. Netherlands, which would be a cracker.

Let's face it, if the Czechs muscle in - or the Georgians beat a second string Portugal - England's name is on the trophy as Slovakia look almost certain opponents then. Southgate has preposterous luck with draws. If it was earned, you'd say fair enough, but it's pure chance - and it always falls well for him.

 

[BlueStevie35]

I have no faith in us getting any further but, we've won the group at a canter. That booing is absolutely shocking and counter productive. England fans are seriously backwards.

It’s absolutely deserved, we didn’t win the group at a canter, Serbia didn’t bother trying to get a point in the first game, Denmark should have beaten us and tonight was a snooze fest that if Slovenia had put any decent ball in would have got them 3 points

 

[RomanReigns]

What a farce

 

[Blue83]

What a farce

I thought they finish higher because D comes before S

 

[Drico]

Possible Second Phase Draw (based on most likely results tomorrow - SLK-ROM draw, BEL win, POR/TUR do not lose)

GER v. DEN
ESP v. SLK
POR v. HUN
FRA v. ROM

BEL v. SLV
AUT v. TUR
ENG v. NED
SUI v. ITA