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Guardiola to be found out in the premier league

tommytowne said:
Just seen that push on Sterling.
Blindingly obvious penalty perhaps not given because the kid didn't go to ground.
Some credence in what Ruud said, in that its cases like that that encourage players to chuck themselves to ground at the slightest contact.
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Also needs to be said that the ref isn't entirely to blame, it was a quick breakaway and when the ball was put through to Sterling the ref was on the halfway line so doubt he could see it from his angle. Blame has to be on the assistant who should have seen it and if he didn't then he needs glasses.
 
Why do people argue about his previous achievements?

The fact is he's struggling in the league where every opponent is a threat, which is a exactly what his critics was saying before the season started.

City can easily finish as low as 6th, maybe even 7th if we can maintain our recent level of perfomances and that would be 'Guardiola found out in the PL'.

The jury is still out, but he's having problems and it's clear for everyone.

I personally hope that he fails miserably btw.
 

I think he deserves credit for his previous credentials, but I don't think they make him a particularly great manager. He's good, but not great.

I think City brought him in with the expectation of him changing/winning things immediately, because that's what he was able to do at his previous clubs. The problem there being his previous clubs were in FAR less competitive leagues and he inherited better players.

I don't think he will be a success at Man City.
 
He's a flat track bully manager who has cherry picked his jobs to basically ensure success. His philosophy fails miserably when teams are actually aiming to compete against you and not bend over like 90% of teams in Spain and Germany do for the big teams.

He's an upper class Roberto Martinez. Any manager that lacks pragmatism and sticks rigidly to philosophy no matter what are going to be weak managers in the English game.
 
Old Blue 2 said:
Bringing this forward to the week-end games, Citeh had more possession, but couldn't beat Spurs (notwithstanding the non-award of a penalty to them, but Citeh's first was 'handball'). Equally, the RS had far more possession than Swansea, but were less potent in front of goal. These Managers like Guardiola, Klopp & Martinez need to wake up to the fact that 1) the modern game is NOT all about possession (a lot of possession is tippy-tapping in their own half); 2) statistics PROVE nothing in terms of results; 3) defending is every bit a part of the game as possession & attacking, 4) Leicester City were the template for the modern game last season, with their possession sometimes being under 30%, yet they were lethal in front of goal.

Conte at Chelsea has got it right at the moment with not giving possession away cheaply allied to quality players who can attack quickly, pass accurately, and score regularly.
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I partly agree with you. Wouldn't say Leicester are exactly a template for the modern game. Without taking any credit away it was a one off Obviously possession isn't everything but in essence possession football is the best form of defence. If the other team hasn't got the ball they can't score. In general, teams who dominate possession are the ones who finish in the highest places. And I would hazrd a guess that has always been the case and nothing to do with the modern game.

The bit in bold I defo agree with. Stats should concentrate more on possession in the final third to give a truer perspective of who's been the better team.
 

Seanjd said:
I think he deserves credit for his previous credentials, but I don't think they make him a particularly great manager. He's good, but not great.

I think City brought him in with the expectation of him changing/winning things immediately, because that's what he was able to do at his previous clubs. The problem there being his previous clubs were in FAR less competitive leagues and he inherited better players.

I don't think he will be a success at Man City.
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I think he will be if he's given time.
 
Jamo Martinez said:
I partly agree with you. Wouldn't say Leicester are exactly a template for the modern game. Without taking any credit away it was a one off Obviously possession isn't everything but in essence possession football is the best form of defence. If the other team hasn't got the ball they can't score. In general, teams who dominate possession are the ones who finish in the highest places. And I would hazrd a guess that has always been the case and nothing to do with the modern game.

The bit in bold I defo agree with. Stats should concentrate more on possession in the final third to give a truer perspective of who's been the better team.
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Leicester did it for a whole season and won the title...

We did it against Citeh, 4-0

Swansea yesterday. 3-2

If what you say is to be correct, Barcelona should have won EVERYTHING they entered for the last few years, given their possession game. They did not. And there's a reason for that. Majority possession does not equate to winning ways. Period.
 

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