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Guardiola to be found out in the premier league

roydo said:
Be shocked if both were, yeah.

Conte knows the CL.
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I hate his guts but if he leaves they'll miss Costa's snide. There is also a bit of Hazard to Real Madrid talk heating up.

Plus Chelsea went through the season with virtually no injuries and without Europe.
 
Rook said:
They can still spend their way back into competence. Plus neither Spurs or Chelsea are all that intimidating. Really would anyone be shocked if both those 2 are out in the C-league group stages?
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chelsea have a brilliant squad really, the defence looks weak on paper, but as team they've been almost faultless and their attack is as good as most in europe. Spurs, hmm, wouldn't be shocked no, but they have a team good enough to get out of it.

Anyway, this was all about guardiola masively underachieving, you say those teams aren't intimidating, but since about half way through the season they haven't been close to either of them.
 
toffeejack said:
chelsea have a brilliant squad really, the defence looks weak on paper, but as team they've been almost faultless and their attack is as good as most in europe. Spurs, hmm, wouldn't be shocked no, but they have a team good enough to get out of it.

Anyway, this was all about guardiola masively underachieving, you say those teams aren't intimidating, but since about half way through the season they haven't been close to either of them.
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Chelsea's best wide player is Victor Moses. This isn't late 00s Chelsea. Hell probably late-00s RS can beat them. A squad on the world stage like PSG, Dortmund, or Monaco can rip them apart.

and to get back on topic: KOFF PEP
 
toffeejack said:
in this trigger friendly crazy world, i know it won't happen, but does he deserve the sack this season?

£50m on stones, £40m on sane, £30m on jesus, £23m on gundogan, £15m on Nolito, £15m on bravo taking over a team who would have been title favourites, champions league semi finalists.

His result: no trophies, two bottled semis against weaker teams, a short CL run and may not even get in the top 4. Everyone keeps saying they'll get there, but bloddy hell, they just shipped 2 against middlesborough! I think that's only happened about twice all season, he's an uter fraud, they look massively worse. He'll be lucky to keep his job in the summer and if he sells aguero i will laugh my bollocks off.
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No. Only bravo was an unsuccessful signing. Not done badly enough to warrant sacking even if they don't get cl
 

Billy Dean said:
No. Only bravo was an unsuccessful signing. Not done badly enough to warrant sacking even if they don't get cl
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more to do with unsuccessful signings, he's spent nearly £200m this summer, yes i know a few are youngsters, but still, doesn't matter, they've regressed massively this season under him. We battered them 4-0 ffs, they were 4-0 down to leicester when they were at their absolute worst as well. City have built up a bit of a fear factor in the last few years, now everyone can view them as soft targets with a terrible philosophy. When you see what managers get sacked for these days i think he's very very lucky to keep his job, especially if they finish 5th.
 
toffeejack said:
more to do with unsuccessful signings, he's spent nearly £200m this summer, yes i know a few are youngsters, but still, doesn't matter, they've regressed massively this season under him. We battered them 4-0 ffs, they were 4-0 down to leicester when they were at their absolute worst as well. City have built up a bit of a fear factor in the last few years, now everyone can view them as soft targets with a terrible philosophy. When you see what managers get sacked for these days i think he's very very lucky to keep his job, especially if they finish 5th.
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Not at all. Gundogan, Sane, Jesus and Nolito all good signings, some of them troubled by injury so couldn't show their full worth. Stones was up and down but one for the future. He's been let down by players he inherited. He's made mistakes this season but to say he should be sacked is a bit over the top and no doubt coloured by your hatred of him. Far too early to talk of sacking. Let's see what happens next season.
 

bicycleheader said:
Silly bitter perico ;)
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This has honestly got nothing to do with my dislike for Barcelona. I just don't think his management style is as great as made out at all. Watching City, I think that the football they play is suicidal most of the time, a bit like Martinez managing us.

It worked well at Barca undeniably, but with slightly lower quality players it is not as effective. You need the execution to be perfect at all times in order to be successful with his game plan. Or altenatively, you need the opposition to be a bit more lax in their own attitude and style. At Barca, he had truly world class players, and played against teams that didn't have the same physicality or speed to their game, simply due to a differing footballing culture. Ergo, he was extremely successful.
 
Interesting that when he has a team who aren't guaranteed to at least be in the top 2 he has floundered, found out, maybe, he's only managed Barca and Bayern, reckon even I could win something with them squads in those leagues.
 

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