2018/19 Gylfi Sigurdsson

[havrey0123]

his 29 years old, sell in january while you can still get some value.
@Steve0 what do you think

 

[Steve0]

his 29 years old, sell in january while you can still get some value.
@Steve0 what do you think

No, too valuable on the pitch. His game isn't going to deteriorate. He's not a Salah/Mane type player fortunately.

 

[Pete Campbell]

Ricky or not, this is quite telling.

 

[COYBL25]

Literally this.

If we had put away some of those chances, then "pundits" would be singing his praises

Add that to the ever growing list of - " things that aren`t his fault " lol

 

[Timak]

With respect, I absolutely disagree.

What West Ham did on Sunday is flood the centre of the pitch. The last thing you want our "10" doing is removing himself from the congestion. Instead, we should have used the width far more than we did because, when good balls are playing into the box, Gylfi - just like he did for the goal - is there as an option alongside Tosun.

Instead what we did is try and have Gana thread little passes into the congestion which he just isn't capable of doing. We also missed sitter after sitter.

Listen to the commentary from Carragher at the weekend "Everton have got to get Gylfi Sigurdssen into this game". Not, Sigurdssen has to maraud the pitch looking for it and dictating from in front of the CBs.

We don't do that and, on paper, the only way I can see us effectively and consistently getting the ball to arguably our best player is with the introduction of Gomes.

Because if that doesn't work, we really are screwed in the centre of the pitch.

Agree that the main issue we have is progressing the ball up the pitch. We don't have either of the deeper midfielders capable of playing a forward pass and that was my main worry going into this season.

It is also the reason I was dead against signing Sigurdsson. He doesn't help with this issue, he makes it much worse.

His skillset is limited basically to getting shots off and finding space in the box. This is why I say he is more of a Cahill than a normal #10. He is effectively a striker if you look at where he actually plays during build up.

Carragher not understanding Gylfi's role doesn't surprise me. People hear £45m #10 and assume he is a creator who needs to be running the show but if people can't see that isn't what he is 10 years in to his career then I don't know what to say.

With our limited midfielders we need a 10 who drops deeper, keeps the passing ticking over and can progress the ball forward with dribbles. Like me had when we had the same midfielders with Barkley instead of Gylfi.

Gomes will help as he can do that Barkley role but I see him as a replacement for Gylfi in a 4-3-3 in the longer term.

 

[Timak]

Ricky or not, this is quite telling.

But is it unusual?

No, the vast majority of shots are missed.

On this link (from before WH game) you can see that the open play stats for creativity where he hardly stands out.

 

[kenada_blue]

Ricky or not, this is quite telling.

Telling that he'll create 1 or 2 chances a game. The same can be said for pretty much most of our attackers

It's the other 95% of his game that's the issue.

 

[havrey0123]

No, too valuable on the pitch. His game isn't going to deteriorate. He's not a Salah/Mane type player fortunately.

thats great so he can add to the 5 goals in 32 games then and we lose 45m in 3 and a half years time

 

[Steve0]

thats great so he can add to the 5 goals in 32 games then and we lose 45m in 3 and a half years time

Let's hope so! I expect him to sign a new contract though. If he doesn't then we should sell him don't want a Michael Owen, Mcmanaman, Flanagan, Bogdan Can, Sturridge, Origi, Markovic, Milner, Moreno etc type situation on our hands!

 

[havrey0123]

Let's hope so! I expect him to sign a new contract though. If he doesn't then we should sell him don't want a Michael Owen, Mcmanaman, Flanagan, Bogdan Can, Sturridge, Origi, Markovic, Milner, Moreno etc type situation on our hands!

a new contrac?t he is already on 150k a week until 2022, in which case he will nearly be 33.

 

[Steve0]

a new contrac?t he is already on 150k a week until 2022, in which case he will nearly be 33.

Yeah he can play on further than that, he's not mohammed ricketts.

 

[havrey0123]

Yeah he can play on further than that, he's not mohammed ricketts.

Oh, i expected him to leave when he was 33 and maybe leave for china or the states, but if you think he can still play at 35

 

[Steve0]

Oh, i expected him to leave when he was 33 and maybe leave for china or the states, but if you think he can still play at 35

Yeah he can go after that, could probably play there when he's 40.

Remember when liverpool fans thought they were getting pato but he preferred to go to China! That confirmed their small time status for me, must have hurt them badly that.

 

[MikeH72]

Imagine thinking @Steve0 isn't the most underrated poster on GOT though.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

So literally one game. Meanwhile every game richarlison has played in he's been head and shoulders our best player, same can be said of Theo, he came in last January and was our best player from the off. These players make their teammates better, sigurdson needs his team mates to make him better

It’s the only full game he’s played with Richarlison, so it was the only one I could use. Like I said before, I get why people think he’s been poor as he hasn’t been as influential as he was at Swansea. I agree that Walcott hit the ground running when we signed him and I think he’s a great player, but even he was anonymous on Sunday. We signed Sigurdsson to link the midfield to the forwards and create chances, he hasn’t done that as much as we expected but he did link well with Richarlison in that Southampton game.

Again, I’m not defending how he’s played so far, but I don’t think we should write him off as being absolutely terrible just yet. At least wait till Silva has his first 11 available around him and see how he performs, cos he has got a bit of quality about him.