2018/19 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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The binman chronicles said:
I know this is the internet where opinions are often harsh and over the top but if we keep on ushing players to the exit door after a few poor games you set a precedent for the replacement, so Bernard comes in and doesn't look great, chuck him in the bin too?

I know we are time limited and can't wait forever but sometimes you need to give players a couple of seasons to settle, (this shouldn't be so much the case with a proven PL player like Siggy - but in his defence he has already had 4 managers in his 12 months here) it's easy to get on a players back, how about take the slightly harder route and support him? We know he can pick a pass and score goals as he has done it for Swansea and Iceland, it's up to Silva to unlock that potential by playing in a way that enables him to perform. If after the end of this season under the same manager and a fairly settled team he continues to offer little then we may actually have some decent evidence to give him a hard time. Doing so after only playing 40 minutes of the first game of the season must be setting some kind of record.
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Youre talking about posters wanting to bin players off after 'a few poor games'...how many games has he played for us?

Hes not a kid...hes a senior member of the squad who cant put 2 good games together.

Hes just the sort of player we should be upgrading.


Zezti said:
I don't think he's as bad as some here are making, but I would swap him in a heartbeat for that Ruben Neves.
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Gylfi + £40mil
 
Zatara said:
Youre talking about posters wanting to bin players off after 'a few poor games'...how many games has he played for us?

Hes not a kid...hes a senior member of the squad who cant put 2 good games together.
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A few under Koeman, then change.

A few under Unsworth, then change. (...and he looked one of our better players at the time though)

Then Allardyce came in and NO ONE looked good under him, we bypassed playing on the floor and couldn't keep the ball for 5 seconds.

40 minutes under Silva.

All the while this was trying to accommodate Rooney in the same team. He could turn out to be a flop but don't say he has had a fair crack of the whip yet, because he hasn't.
 
The binman chronicles said:
A few under Koeman, then change.

A few under Unsworth, then change. (...and he looked one of our better players at the time though)

Then Allardyce came in and NO ONE looked good under him, we bypassed playing on the floor and couldn't keep the ball for 5 seconds.

40 minutes under Silva.

All the while this was trying to accommodate Rooney in the same team. He could turn out to be a flop but don't say he has had a fair crack of the whip yet, because he hasn't.
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While there are certainly factors that he wasn't to blame for when he first came in, I also won't excuse Gylfi for being utter tosh for the first 10 games or so. He was awful, like the rest were, and he evidently wasn't sharp.

But once he got played in that 4-3-3, as the left sided forward, it started to click. Rooney a bit deeper getting on the ball and Gylfi provided a good link up option. The few times we played that system (with Gana as the lone defensive midfielder and Davies in a box-to-box role) we actually looked okay.

Once Gylfi got injured we saw Rooney's form drop even more as he was getting on the ball with no options (coming to the ball) ahead of him.

Tosun would try to link the play and then Walcott would run in behind, but neither of them had the ability to get on the ball, turn and pass/shoot/cross that Gyfli has.

As it stands, I'm not sure he gets in our strongest team when all of the others are fit, but it depends how Silva wants to set up. And slating the lad for Saturday is ludicrous. First game of the season, he had to make way because of the red card and during his time on the pitch we were reverting to going long anyway because Schneiderlin / Gueye were offering no options to pass out from the back (Schneiderlin to blame here more than Gueye, imo).

So yes, he could have played better, but he didn't really play badly.
 

Given the mess that he came in to last year with no pre season behind him Gylfi produced some of our better moments of the season. There is room for improvement but the same can be said about every player from last year. I think he'll have a big part to play this year, he'll get goals and assists and with better players around him I'd expect him to grow in to his role.
 
If you’re wondering why people are harsh on him, have a look at Richarlison. On his debut, head and shoulders above any other player on the pitch and without him we undoubtedly lose the game. THAT’S the sort of influence we expect from a £40m+ player. Now try and think of a time you’ve ever seen Sigurdsson grab a game by the scruff of the neck like that.
 
mikeh72 said:
If you’re wondering why people are harsh on him, have a look at Richarlison. On his debut, head and shoulders above any other player on the pitch and without him we undoubtedly lose the game. THAT’S the sort of influence we expect from a £40m+ player. Now try and think of a time you’ve ever seen Sigurdsson grab a game by the scruff of the neck like that.
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Blah blah blah inflated price tag nonsense that sadly most just can't get over.
 
ilikecheese said:
Blah blah blah inflated price tag nonsense that sadly most just can't get over.
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Irrespective of the price tag Siguardsson (who I rated highly at Swansea) just hasn’t influenced games since he’s been at the club. Now we have a proper manager at the club, I’m hoping he can get the best out of Siguardsson as I still see him as a talent who can offer something to the team.
 

Nyhus said:
He will show his quality this season. With quick players on each flank and a deadly striker in front of him, Gylfi will do good work for us.
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Why though? When has he ever shown in his career he's a good creative passing no. 10 with vision?

It's collective fantasy because he's an expensive central attacking midfielder so he's assumed to have those qualities. He's never shown it though, not above midtable standard anyway sadly.
 
So long as we keep the same manager for longer than half a season this time I think he will show everyone why we paid top dollar for him.

The goal he scored against Swansea was one of the best I've seen in recent memory at Goodison for the technique alone.
 

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