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2017/18 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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I'm not referring to siggy really, just barkley was crap for a couple of seasons before he left, no effort at all just walked around the pitch doing nothing

He wasn't though, he was the exact opposite - again, check the stats.

He wasn't running around like a headless chicken, I'll agree with that like.
 
Just lol

I have no idea who you have been watching all these years, but your over estimation of this player is absolutely hilarious.

Also, can you imagine Barkley being considered as MOM in a game v Argentina for his nation in a vital world cup opener? No me neither.

I think Sigurdsson is more likely to be a vital player for an average team.

I think Barkley is (or was) more likely to be a better player consistently for a higher quality team.

Again, it's not just my eyes that tell me that, the stats do too.
 
Funny that those who used to bang on about Barkley being world class are now going with the narrative that ‘injury has ruined him’ rather than simply admitting they were wrong.

I’ve watched his games for Chelsea, he’s exactly the same player he was before the injury - slow thinking, frustrating and largely ineffective. His technical attributes and strength lift him up to what he always was - a run of the mill Premier League player.
 

He wasn't though, he was the exact opposite - again, check the stats.

He wasn't running around like a headless chicken, I'll agree with that like.

Didn't run at all mate, I was sick of watching him pretend to press players, literally never tackling, not heading Etc defensively if was like we had ten men. He has zero input if we didn't have the ball, no that's fine when you produce the goods at the other end on the pitch and everything is going well. It's not ok when the team you apparently love is getting beat, when you are out of form and the fans are turning on you. He had all the natural ability in the world but he went backwards as a player. He basically meant we played 1 uptop as he did no defensive work at all, so his 8 goals he got that season could easily been scored by niasse if he was picked ahead of him. Barkley is a wasted talent that I feel cares more about rinsing birds in town and being the big I am than actually being a footballer
 

Always someone else's fault.

Mate common , if you put the ball on a plate for a striker then that's job done isn't it? Always someone else's fault? I hope your not a barkley supporter because I have heard everything from gangsters, the fans, he's playing with crap, injury, manager to negative, manager to positive, lukaku doesn't move enough, he has nobody to pass to etc as reasons why he was crap, never barkley a attitude or application
 
I don’t get some of the criticism he gets, Siggy didn’t set the transfer fee, Everton did so it’s irrelevant to me if he cost £45m or £1, we have a player who is much better than some of the dross in the squad so let’s get behind him.

That doesn’t matter mate, because Jagielka got up the pitch faster than him at the derby. Okay, he scored the goal, but still.

@kenada_blue
 
I think Sigurdsson is more likely to be a vital player for an average team.

I think Barkley is (or was) more likely to be a better player consistently for a higher quality team.

Again, it's not just my eyes that tell me that, the stats do too.

Hmmm, Yet since leaving Everton for Chelsea who are a superior team, when he does get a game he can’t even last a full 90 on the very few occasions they have used him. Even with Bakayoko being as bad as he was last season.

Gylfi is a pivotal figure in his international side, who in the last major competition did very well, so is proving it at the highest level. They didn’t start too bad yesterday either on the highest stage.

This agenda of “ its only Iceland” looks like desperate tactics to belittle anything he does, which for a level headed person is quite comical and rather transparent.
 

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