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Hilary Benn Sacked From The Shadow Cabinet - wider political debate

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gorgeousgeorgeEFC said:
The NHS budget is £100BN. Just £12BN of that is spent on mental health. To me that is an absolute scandal.

Incidentally, 1 in 4 Britons will suffer from a mental illness at some point in their life.
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That increases hugely if you support Everton. Apologies for the flippancy.

It is a vicious circle, mental health in this country, there is no means to avoid the causes of many, many cases.
 

Gwladysstreetlad said:
Lol, he must be determined to destroy what's left of his credibility. I'd vote for just about anyone to block the Blair creature getting power again. The man (and I use that word loosely) is vermin. An absolutely disgusting individual, no fate could be bad enough for him.
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Now that Thatcher is dead the left has to fill the two minutes hate somehow. Blair doesn't really fit the bill but good effort nonetheless.
He sums things up in that piece well:

The reason why the position of these guys is not one that will appeal to an electorate is not because they are too left, or because they are too principled. It’s because they are too wrong.

The reason their policies shouldn’t be supported isn’t because they’re wildly radical, it’s because they are not. They don’t work. They are actually a form of conservatism. This is the point about them. What they are offering is a mixture of fantasy and error.
 

Black Belt Jones said:
Now that Thatcher is dead the left has to fill the two minutes hate somehow. Blair doesn't really fit the bill but good effort nonetheless.
He sums things up in that piece well:

The reason why the position of these guys is not one that will appeal to an electorate is not because they are too left, or because they are too principled. It’s because they are too wrong.

The reason their policies shouldn’t be supported isn’t because they’re wildly radical, it’s because they are not. They don’t work. They are actually a form of conservatism. This is the point about them. What they are offering is a mixture of fantasy and error.
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I don't consider myself either on the left or the right actually. I simply recognise Tony Blair for the shameless disaster that he was/is. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who have anything positive to say about Blair. You could walk into Conservative strongholds and find people waxing lyrical's about Thatcher if asked about her. Blair? I doubt many on either the right or the left would have anything positive to say about him. He was a disaster regardless of your political leanings.
 
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Gwladysstreetlad said:
I don't consider myself either on the left or the right actually. I simply recognise Tony Blair for the shameless disaster that he was/is. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who have anything positive to say about Blair. You could walk into Conservative strongholds and find people waxing lyrical's about Thatcher if asked about her. Blair? I doubt many on either the right or the left would have anything to say about him. He was a disaster regardless of your political leanings.
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The way I view Blair is that politically he was completely correct, but when put into a position of power he was hopelessly corrupted, and everything fell apart.

That's the big tragedy about Blair - how someone can be so right, yet so wrong.
 
Certianly correct me if i am wrong on this.

but are we not tacking the ISIS problem the wrong way? Reading there they want to retake the city blah blah blah. What if rather than protect the people in the city, evacuate them instead. Remove ISIS biggest problem. Just do a mass multi country evacuation of the people and designate areas to move them to temporarily if they wise to move. then when ISIS take the city unapposed, then have multiply armed forces all take them out in one swoop, let them think they are winning before we just decimate them in one area leaving them scrambling back in fewer numbers.

Just a theory anyway, finer detials may need to be ironed out beforehand
 
Ashtonian said:
Certianly correct me if i am wrong on this.

but are we not tacking the ISIS problem the wrong way? Reading there they want to retake the city blah blah blah. What if rather than protect the people in the city, evacuate them instead. Remove ISIS biggest problem. Just do a mass multi country evacuation of the people and designate areas to move them to temporarily if they wise to move. then when ISIS take the city unapposed, then have multiply armed forces all take them out in one swoop, let them think they are winning before we just decimate them in one area leaving them scrambling back in fewer numbers.

Just a theory anyway, finer detials may need to be ironed out beforehand
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Thank you, man with no geo-political qualifications or experience
 

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