DavidH
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So you're suggesting that Prince didn't really get two ribs removed so he could suck himself off?
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So you're suggesting that Prince didn't really get two ribs removed so he could suck himself off?
TheFinnFan
Finners
Nah I suggest he removed four.
DavidH
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Nah I suggest he removed four.
That would make more sense.
TheFinnFan
Finners
Thats history for you
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Excellent thread, which includes the fabulous betwattled (golly gosh.)
Yeah, Stalin was paranoid, he didn't believe that Hitler actually killed himself.
He would have loved nothing more than to parade Adolf in a cage all over Red Square, its reason why Hitler offed himself. I believe Red Army was only few hundred meters from him bunker when he done that.
He would have loved nothing more than to parade Adolf in a cage all over Red Square, its reason why Hitler offed himself. I believe Red Army was only few hundred meters from him bunker when he done that.
A great book if you want to read about their actions in the first few days after his death, and the final days of the Reich under Dönitz.
Old Blue 2
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Catching up on this thread, and your contention that history is told by the winners.
Perhaps you could comment on the WW2 aviation works of Jochen Prien, Peter Rodeike, Hans Ring, Gerhard Stemmer, Winfried Bock and Michael Meyer.
And then go on to books written by these guys about their flying career: Adolf Galland; Ulrich Steinhilper; Heinz Knocke, Johannes Steinhoff, Günther Rall.
As for this: '...often half of real events are not told...'
Perhaps you could point out to me all that is missing from books on WW2 aviation by Chris Goss, Andy Saunders, Dr. Alfred Price, Simon Parry.
One might say that I have a slight interest in WW2 aviation...
Memoirs by Wehrmacht generals (Guderian, Von Manstein etc....) were quite popular and influential after ww2, there was a lot of idolization of Whermacht and their officers even by their opponents.
Basically military failure was blamed on Hitler and every great success on genius of the certain Generals.
Even Churchill himself intervened during trial of Von Manstein putting pressure on judges to reduce his prison term.
So "winners write history" is not always correct, fearsome reputation of Napoleon, Hannibal, German armies of both World Wars and probably many others losers test to that.
Old Blue 2
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That was my point, thank you.
And it is equally true that those born on the side of the victors write about conflicts in a completely objective way. I know that 100%.
There is a phrase that is pertinent to all of this: 'History told from one side, is not history at all'.
Jeez, anyone would think I'm a writer...