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Holgate Racially Abused By Firmino - The Guardian

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You make it sound like Mason is telling the truth or lying. There is another possibility and that is Mason just misheard.
Not sure about that mate, for me it either happened or it didn't, if your going to accuse someone of that you have to be certain.
 
Hope this isn't taken the wrong way, but I doubt any white player would have reacted the same way as Holgate. The N-word is a colour-specific slur and while we Caucasians can and should deplore its usage, it doesn't impact us in anywhere near the same way.
I think kenny was just trying to keep him calm in a difficult situation like Snides, he also thought that the referee would of sent Firmino off. If it was said after the game Kenny would of smacked him. At the end of the day forget colour, if somebody insults your mate you'll defend him. Kenny was just doing that.
 
The thing that’s burning my head out most about it is how blinkered the rs are about it. Heard a few saying ban holgate for pulling the race card. He may have been abused, he may have misheard him, but ya can tell from his reaction he isn’t lying. He looks like he genuinely thinks he got called that, whether he did or didn’t.

If that was one of ours I’d stick by the player until ya find out properly but I wouldn’t blindly believe him, and I wouldn’t come down on holgate because he had the audacity to be upset that he thought someone had dropped the n-bomb on him.

Gang of cretins
 
You make it sound like Mason is telling the truth or lying. There is another possibility and that is Mason just misheard.
Of course if there is proof that he didn't say the n word, you can guarantee Mason will be described himself as a horrible racist accuser and not allowed to have misheard anything. Nailed on.
 
By the way I hope you all knew that Mason actually is a quarter Uruguayan and thus would be very familiar with such insults, hence his reaction.
 

People saying that Madley would have sent Firminho off if he had of heard It, that's not my take. If the referee heard something and sent him off, then the matter is considered dealt with. I think he likely took advice off John Moss, told him what he had heard/been told and he said that it's best to investigate after the game. It's also the only reason I can think for Holgate not getting a yellow card.
 

Do they though? Are they aware? I always thought they had some kind of awareness shield that protects them from reality.

Everyone I speak to in work who supports another team can’t stand them, and that’s from all over the country.

I know we have some helmets who support us too but they doseem to have a much higher percentage.
 
Everyone I speak to in work who supports another team can’t stand them, and that’s from all over the country.

I know we have some helmets who support us too but they doseem to have a much higher percentage.
They have huge global support and still one of the biggest worldwide 'brands'

However their success does not match this, think of the other global brand clubs they compete with - barca, man utd, Chelsea, real Madrid...all still winning titles

I think this is why so many of their fans are so weird, they cannot cope with being this massive brand and not winning anything

The champs league win 12 years ago made it worse, they gained more glory fans and the current fans were fooled into believing this would be a regular thing...when it was a one off
 

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