Raino85
Player Valuation: £35m
If he has misheard him you do know what will follow after that?
HOLGATE NEEDS TO BE BANNED FOR 8 GAMES FALSELY AACCUSING SOMEONE OF RACISM
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If he has misheard him you do know what will follow after that?
HOLGATE NEEDS TO BE BANNED FOR 8 GAMES FALSELY AACCUSING SOMEONE OF RACISM
thebluenosebolt
prefer being behind the times
Never got racism me. Once a player puts on our shirt they become blue.
madkiwi
Koffee please
With the ear piece they wear having with the other officials in their ear, the noise of the crowd and players, Firminho yelling in Portuguese and having to concentrate on what to do in an escalating situation, I can very reasonably see Madley not hearing what was said.
Occam's razor and all...
Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £25m
Holgate’s reaction is 100% genuine. That doesn't necessarily mean Firmino said what he’s being accused of (i think he did too) but Holgate certainly felt he heard it. My guess is the FA will be thorough with this one whether there is sufficient evidence or not because they've made a pigs ear of these things previously and Racism is a massive issue and one of the things Fifa is keen to focus on and drive out. I imagine the FA will interview all parties and review all possible media before any further statement is made and only when they are 100% certain they've covered everything will they take action. They're useless at the best of times but they'll take their time with this one to cover their own arses more than anything. Holgate is a young promising black player in one of the biggest leagues in the world.... if it's seen as though his complaint is not taken seriously or given the same time and attention as a high profile case like the Suarez/Evra there would be serious questions and whilst the FA may not actually give a rats arse about Holgate they do care about how world football would see them if they palmed this off.
FC sexy xxx
Player Valuation: £35m
This club got away with murder in 1985 and not much has stuck to them since . Utter vermin from the fans , to the ex and current players , kopite journalists in the media straight down to the stewards. And every manager since Roy Evans has been poison and bought into the cult apart from hodgson who they hounded out .
Even the head steward on the Anfield Road was trying to incite a few of us in the upper Anfield Road on Friday but nobody was biting . Being a an ex copper and a kopite I suppose we should excuse his behaviour.
Even the head steward on the Anfield Road was trying to incite a few of us in the upper Anfield Road on Friday but nobody was biting . Being a an ex copper and a kopite I suppose we should excuse his behaviour.
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
No. The ref,although he got a lot wrong on the day, was right to refer to the assistant and say nothing/take no action at the time....that would be pre judging and could effect the enquiry which was bound to follow. Its very possible that the ref didn't hear anything, but there will be conflicting viewpoints(e.g. what did Kenny hear?).
I agree actually
I don't trust either of our fan bases to deal with this appropriately if he is indeed guilty
The rivalry is getting more toxic with every year and this won't help
SteRobbo84
Player Valuation: Two Pokémon cards & a Pepperami
It's so frustrating that the media etc keep referring to Firmino saying 'puta' as if that is what it's all about. Completely ignoring the fact that it's what is said after this that causes Holgate to react.
It's clear what word Holgate thinks has been said, so for me there are three scenarios:
1. Holgate is mistaken
2. Holgate is correct
3. Holgate is lying
Even removing any EFC bias, why would he lie? He can't believe the ref hasn't heard it so why would he be angry at that if he thought anything other than that word was used?
That BBC angle is the probably gonna be the most conclusive one. Just hope we all get to see it rather than just being informed of the outcome by the FA
It's clear what word Holgate thinks has been said, so for me there are three scenarios:
1. Holgate is mistaken
2. Holgate is correct
3. Holgate is lying
Even removing any EFC bias, why would he lie? He can't believe the ref hasn't heard it so why would he be angry at that if he thought anything other than that word was used?
That BBC angle is the probably gonna be the most conclusive one. Just hope we all get to see it rather than just being informed of the outcome by the FA
Seathestars
Player Valuation: £60m
If you look at his reaction its clear he thinks something has been said, if it was or if he misheard I don't know.
But one minute he's standing there cool as an SAS sniper, the next second he flips, that wasn't an act and it certainly wasn't premeditated playing the race card.
EFC78
Player Valuation: £25m
Exactly right. I don't think they can even prove number 3 though as Holgate clearly hasn't retracted his accusation. So at this point, I doubt he would come out and admit he lied, even if he had. I think he is adamant he heard something wrong though. Which leaves 1 or 2 as the outcomes of the investigation.
If it's 1, he will be accused of lying anyway by the RS and loads of neutrals. If it's 2 then Firmino will rightly be punished.
Jesus Christ, give it a rest..........all clubs have idiotic supporters and employees. To think they have the monopoly on it, is pathetic.
This is the sort of comment that can cause a lot of the trouble.
Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £25m
only if proved that he's lied.
FC sexy xxx
Player Valuation: £35m
they are FAR worse than any other club in England. The old firm are close to them if you want to count Scotland.
And no I won’t give it a rest and my name isn’t Jesus
granter79
Player Valuation: £35m
even if hes shown he misheard him he will be slated pal by the scum media and their fans
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