Honest assessment of the Don Carlo reign so far

[Jim Hopper]

So you would have kept Silva?

Absolutely not mate, I didn’t want him from the start!

He was as much to blame as the players were for his failure. His refusal to change things tactically and persistent use of 4-2-3-1 with his squared pegs in round holes and like for like substitutions were what finished him off. The players did the rest for him. Like they did with the manager before Silva and before him and like they will with Ancelotti and the managers after him if allowed to continue at this club. Buck stops 100% with these players, they are the problem.

Both Ancelotti and Coleman have commented on the lack of commitment and bad mentality of the players at the club now, what more needs to be said to wake up and realise they are our problem.

 

[neilsyd]

Absolutely not mate, I didn’t want him from the start!

He was as much to blame as the players were for his failure. His refusal to change things tactically and persistent use of 4-2-3-1 with his squared pegs in round holes and like for like substitutions were what finished him off. The players did the rest for him. Like they did with the manager before Silva and before him and like they will with Ancelotti and the managers after him if allowed to continue at this club. Buck stops 100% with these players, they are the problem.

Both Ancelotti and Coleman have commented on the lack of commitment and bad mentality of the players at the club now, what more needs to be said to wake up and realise they are our problem.

But you are throwing silva under the bus as much as the players? Who cares what comments are made???
you just blame whatever suits your agenda

 

[neilsyd]

Absolutely not mate, I didn’t want him from the start!

He was as much to blame as the players were for his failure. His refusal to change things tactically and persistent use of 4-2-3-1 with his squared pegs in round holes and like for like substitutions were what finished him off. The players did the rest for him. Like they did with the manager before Silva and before him and like they will with Ancelotti and the managers after him if allowed to continue at this club. Buck stops 100% with these players, they are the problem.

Both Ancelotti and Coleman have commented on the lack of commitment and bad mentality of the players at the club now, what more needs to be said to wake up and realise they are our problem.

You said you wouldn’t have kept silva but the buck stops with the players 100%???

 

[Jim Hopper]

But you are throwing silva under the bus as much as the players? Who cares what comments are made???
you just blame whatever suits your agenda

Not sure what you mean? I’ve said both of them were the problem last season, more so the players. Silva didn’t help his cause by refusing to change things. May have got him a bit more time had he changed things in certain games. Regardless though these players were going to make sure he was booted out.

I care about what comments are made, especially when the two most important people at the club the manager and captain are questioning the mentality and commitment of our players. If that doesn’t concern you then clearly you’re not too fussed on the club.

 

[Jim Hopper]

You said you wouldn’t have kept silva but the buck stops with the players 100%???

It does now.

 

[mrb85]

Has no track record of doing what? He’s virtually managed 4 months of football at the club with a team of duds that aren’t even his.

I don’t think anyone has said he’s immune from criticism, anyone with a semi functioning brain and bit of perspective would know now is not the time to be judging him.

I honestly think some of our fans are absolutely thick. Its like they don’t watch the performances of our players, incapable of doing the basics they’re assigned to do, incapable of going the extra mile and getting stuck in because they can’t be arsed. These aren’t things that any manager can change, unless you’ve got the squad big enough to replace the duds. This is a permanent mental mind set for a large amount of individuals at this club and until they’re shown the door and moved on or replaced things aren’t gonna get much better. Doesn’t matter what manager we have in charge.

Really? Many do.

 

[Jim Hopper]

Really? Many do.

Yeah that’s because they turn up a clubs with players who still care about their club and actually want to put the effort in and earn their money. Not like our unambitious gutless shytehawkes.

 

[neilsyd]

Not sure what you mean? I’ve said both of them were the problem last season, more so the players. Silva didn’t help his cause by refusing to change things. May have got him a bit more time had he changed things in certain games. Regardless though these players were going to make sure he was booted out.

I care about what comments are made, especially when the two most important people at the club the manager and captain are questioning the mentality and commitment of our players at the club. If that doesn’t concern you then clearly you’re not too fussed on the club.

Jim, there’s not many people more fussed about Everton than me. But I can separate myself from what I want to happen and putting perspective on things. I love Ancelotti but there’s a concern that as in any career, we have got someone on the way down. He’s managed for 25 years and I don’t recall any manager being a great success after such a long period of time, unless with the same club? It seems to be a more young managers game now, Bielsa aside, who had only done well in the championship. I mean the top four are Klopp, guardiola, Lampard and solksjaer. I hopefully am completely wrong.....

 

[witchdoc187]

I will judge him if his signings fail.

 

[Jim Hopper]

Get the feeling some of our fans would prefer to have a Sean Dyche type manager. Though what they think he would do with this team of gutless and ambition less ‘z’ listers that others have failed to do in the past is beyond me, only you bunch of raving lunatics know.

Or, they’d prefer we continued our trend of hiring and firing managers spending millions upon millions paying off contracts until we get it right. Psst that’s code for until we sack half of this useless pathetic team off and get us some players with a big of fight, passion, ambition!

 

[ganistuk]

Undecided. Not as excited or optimistic as when we first appointed him, but not convinced anyone could have done, or can do, more with the tools at his disposal.

 

[neilsyd]

I will judge him if his signings fail.

Brands signs the players. Old ground

 

[andy4efc]

Really? Many do.

I used to believe that.

However, look at these players with their half arsed effort for the psat month, and then look that in charge is a man KNOWN to all in the football community for being a motivator and a very good man-manager. A man the players will respect and SHOULD be putting the effort in for.

I do think Silva may got drawn a bad hand to begin with based on the atitude of the players we have, but the poster isn't too wrong when he says Silva needed to change things and he didn't. Under Moyes, even though we were negative football wise and he slowly got stale, i NEVER for once felt the players weren't bothered. Lack of quality? sure, negative tactics? sure. I was desperate for Silva to go and now seeing these players under Ancelotti, while Im obviously delighted we got Ancelotti in, I do have that sympathy for Silva.

For me, and I know maybe im in the lower percentage of people, taking pride in what you do is everything. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work but many of the players this season have shown that they're not bothered about it. That is what urks me most about this season, yes we have been poor, but all i want to see minimum from any footballer is the effort on the pitch and we haven't seen it.

 

[andy4efc]

Brands signs the players. Old ground

based on Ancelotti's wishes and requirements. You're a fool if you think any manager under a DOF doesn't have input on incoming players. Ancelotti identifies players he would like, positions he is needed along with character and such. Brands will then go and see A. Are the first choices attainable/viable. B. Whats the alternatives?

Brands wont just pick a player out the hat he will speak to Ancelotti and say well, player X, B and F are options. CA may go nah, no good. or he may say yes, if option A ins't about this may work. etc.

 

[neilsyd]

based on Ancelotti's wishes and requirements. You're a fool if you think any manager under a DOF doesn't have input on incoming players.

I completely agree. That’s what used to happen with managers and the scouting network of the club. So can somebody please explain the different between a scout and a DOF?