Honest assessment of the Don Carlo reign so far

[hktoffee]

Worst league finish in how many years?

Even Fat Sam finished higher with a worse starting point.

14 points after 15 games under Silva. Lucky to have Carlo and not going down.

 

[Lord Buckethead]

14 points after 15 games under Silva. Lucky to have Carlo and not going down.

8 points from 9 league games under Koeman after spending £218M.
Finished 8th under Sam.

 

[hktoffee]

8 points from 9 league games under Koeman after spending £218M.
Finished 8th under Sam.

The damage was done when Silva managed 15 games which was 40% of total league games in a season.

9 league games was about 24%.

 

[neilsyd]

Sorry mate but everything about allardyce just stunk and i dont mean just the football the man had absolutely no class about him at all (how about him claiming he was behind the West ham result). He is the one claiming he was some miracle worker not anybody else. I for one am also not lauding ancelloti as some miracle worker either. He did what he needed to because imho we were in real danger of bring dragged into the relegation fight unlike when allardyce took over when we weren't. I think if i remember rightly us going a number of games on the bounce under allardyce without even a shot on target. I also know who i would rather have in charge out of the two of them but please don't try and make out allardyce as doing a better job than ancelloti because it just isn't true on any metric you apply.

I didn’t say that. I was just arguing the difference. I can’t stand allardyce, hate him as a fella but you can’t argue with what he does from a points perspective. Carlo is a likeable guy with a good track record and he says the right thing. He’s very difficult to dislike, which is why he hopefully attracts the players.

 

[Groucho]

I’m going to go into the back end of the website and see who voted ‘no’ and dish out some smiting.

 

[everton1953]

That is intimidation. You will have terrified the few who want to vote NO because they would not like to be smitten. However, should there only be one poor soul who wants
to vote No, then he (or she) will be afraid of being smote. What would you use for smiting them?

 

[Houghty19]

I’m going to go into the back end of the website and see who voted ‘no’ and dish out some smiting.

Well i voted no but my no wasn't based on Carlos input given the tools at his disposal.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Do this thread at the end of next season and I would be able to give an honest assessment then.

 

[everton1953]

That is one candidate ready for smiting.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Unfortunately mate the round trip from Sydney’s too long these days. But I do watch every game. I don’t think the difference in the quality of football is much different. Except one tries to arse about with it at the back.

Then time has messed with your memory imo mate. Fat Sam did what he was brought in to do, keep us up. He achieved the goal with relative ease, but the football was beyond dire. Truly grim. You can see what Carlo is trying to achieve, tactical fluidity and a flexible style. Only he’s simply not got the personnel, in midfield in particular, that’s capable of playing how he wants us to play.

Hopefully he’ll be able to change the squad dramatically this summer, and add quality combined with some actual backbone to that team. If the club fail him, then I don’t see the point of employing a man of his calibre.

 

[Groucho]

Well i voted no but my no wasn't based on Carlos input given the tools at his disposal.

Which is why it’s a daft poll

 

[Jimishorts]

I’m going to go into the back end of the website

 

[murphy89]

The best thing about Carlo's appointment is that we now have a manager we can sack at the first sign of trouble. Why? Because where do you go from one the games greatest managers.

I genuinely think we are another managerial change from going down. We can't keep swingingly wildly from manager to manager, system to system and then wondering why the squad is a horrible mix with no identity.

Carlo needs time,even we finish 11th again next season.

 

[Anders_Limpar]

It’s not daft.
If you’re going into points tallies, there’s variables around fixtures which could affect that. I’m not bothering doing all that because I’m not that bothered.
The January transfer window counts for something but when you add the values of the players we bought in the summer that Carlo also had to work with then without doubt, Carlo has the far more valuable squad. Allardyce had Tosun, CA has Richie and a Improved, standout season from DCL, so many have you believe on here.
But I don’t want to go into details which strengthen my point, I just wanted to ask why one is despised more than any other previous manager and one is lauded as a miracle worker for getting that points tally with a better squad than what allardyce had?

Not sure if anyone is lauding Ancelotti for his work this season. I (like most I would guess) was incredibly excited to get a manager in that has won pretty much every major trophy in European football In the last twenty years. To get a manager in that is charismatic, engaging and inspiring. A manager who has some of the worlds greatest players say he’s the best coach they have ever worked with. To compare him to an objectionable, cantankerous, corrupt Allardyce is insane on every level. A man who’s greatest achievement is finishing 6th with Bolton nearly 20 years ago and getting himself the sack from the England job within 2 months of his ‘dream’ appointment.

I didn’t like Allardyce as a man and a manager before he came to Everton but having to go and watch his team every other week at Goodison, by the end of that season I hated him.

There are no details which strengthen your point. Your point is contrarian and stupid.

 

[Noble Savage]

"Recruitment policy has been catastrophic and even Ancelotti could not get a tune out of disinterested players at the end. "

From BBC Sports Phil .
So glad that the proper journos recognised that our players couldn't be bothered , not even for a world class manager .