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It's not Howard its the defenders lads if they didn't let the ball through he wouldn't be able to make mistakes!

I missed the part in the Swansea game were he turned water into wine as well!
 
It's not Howard its the defenders lads if they didn't let the ball through he wouldn't be able to make mistakes!

I missed the part in the Swansea game were he turned water into wine as well!

Na he did make some cracking saves against Swansea. Howard's gashometer is quite high at the moment tho, shocking attempt to come for the ball against Southampton.
 
Why mate? IMO we've got really good players, or at least massive potential, for every position bar in goal.

Talking about getting a good No.2 is a bit daft IMO. Get a better No.1 and let Howard push him.

I love Jelavic. But If we could afford Benzema or David Villa I'd be saying lets get better. I support Everton, not Tim Howard.

I have no problem with getting in competition for Howard. We have it in the national team with Guzan now that he's playing. But "our first priority to get another GK/replace Howard" - there are other positions that need depth. Namely, DM, LB and LM being three of them. GK is not #1 for me by a longshot.

By supporting our players you support the team. You are more than welcome to dislike players, but the amout of recent scapegoating on Tim takes it to a new level. I wasn't around for the Dustbin years. Sounds similar. (And Tim's stats do not justify the level of weirdness going on in here.)
 
Maybe im a tad harsh mate didnt mean to cause offence, to phrase it better i dont think he contributes to the standard we need or grown into. But please dont play hes an Everton player he is beyond critisism card - your better then that - i support Everton not any one individual in the team - cetainly not one who costing the team. He had a good period from Feb to May - the year we got to the cup final and for me he has been a sliding scale liability since. When you say he had a good game against Swansea, he didnt make any mistakes - im sorry that doesnt constitute a good game, he had a game i expect as a baseline performence from an Everton keeper, he made one or two bread and butter saves i expect an everton goal keeper to make - he was simply doing what he should do for once - but its interesting that so many thought it was performence worthy of mention - really shows what we have come to expect from him.


I know we will never agree on him mate. But he is becomng problamatic - nuts and bolts.

Since I write off Anichebe occassionally of course I can't say that. I don't mean he's beyond criticism. But the level to which people criticize Tim - knowing his stats - which put him in the top suite of GKers bugs me. Everyone has a personal opinion on here, but imo people ignore the bold numbers (and unlike Anichebe, THo actually has years of them).

The Swansea game he wasn't just "doing his job" - he made two excellent saves in that match. Pulling saves out of your ass is not normal course of business.

Saying he doesn't contribute at all rankled me. Supporting the team also means supporting the players. Not blindly, but they make up your team. That should count for something.

We are always going to disagree on this, but I will post when I feel like posts go off the deep end. Glad you clarified.
 

Since I write off Anichebe occassionally of course I can't say that. I don't mean he's beyond criticism. But the level to which people criticize Tim - knowing his stats - which put him in the top suite of GKers bugs me. Everyone has a personal opinion on here, but imo people ignore the bold numbers (and unlike Anichebe, THo actually has years of them).

The Swansea game he wasn't just "doing his job" - he made two excellent saves in that match. Pulling saves out of your ass is not normal course of business.

Saying he doesn't contribute at all rankled me. Supporting the team also means supporting the players. Not blindly, but they make up your team. That should count for something.

We are always going to disagree on this, but I will post when I feel like posts go off the deep end. Glad you clarified.

Is right mate, need you to keep in check here!













*Still gash though!
 
I reckon his pozzies outweigh his neggies for the time beanies.

That's my stance. He's not perfect (he is crummy on crosses into the box for both Everton and his national team - totally consistent and a problem in his game), but right now, fine with me.

When Moyes bothers to find this other fabulous keeper somewhere we'll have the conversation. Or when Howard starts to truly suck. A few games into the season? Meh. Keep on truckin' Tim.

And to be clear - I have no issue with competition. I just don't think we are going to go purchase a keeper without spending a crap load of money that's better than Tim. And apparently the Club agrees since we just signed him through 2016 or something like that. We have other priorities unless you want to see Phil Neville as Gibson's back up until he's 40.
 
Is right mate, need you to keep in check here!

LOL - no problem Neiler. I just appreciate we can have this debate without you telling me it's because I'm American. You have no idea how much I appreciate that.
 
LOL - no problem Neiler. I just appreciate we can have this debate without you telling me it's because I'm American. You have no idea how much I appreciate that.

Ha ha tbh, i do post my most scathing when i know your asleep over there!

*A little bit frightened now if im honest.
 
Hes like a crap Bobby Mimms.

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Ha ha tbh, i do post my most scathing when i know your asleep over there!

*A little bit frightened now if im honest.

Except when it's 2am and I'm tiredly posting on here because I've been at work until 11. Blegh.
 

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