Hypothetical Manager Shortlist No.1

[jayonenote]

European experience and he's won things. Plus his style is exactly what we are missing. But he is a risk of course.

ah a bit like Koeman you mean

 

[jayonenote]

I want a manager who is hardworking and diligent. Someone who is both able to get results in the short term while building for the long term.

That is why I have chosen to throw my weight behind Marco Silva.

(Only joking, he would be a disaster - let’s bring back Moyes and Irvine)

why do you think he would be a disaster?

 

[Zatara]

Hope we don't get Vieira....we'd need to ask the Americans on here their opinion lol only kidding lads

Just read a full breakdown of Silva's record, like it so far
Credit to Steve Ferns on Toffeeweb.
Silva had a mediocre playing career at left back in Portugal. He hung up his boots at Estoril and as he was noted as clever and astute guy he was made a coach and then Director of Football. In his second season, the manager was performing dreadful right from the start and Estoril were in the bottom places in the Portugese second tier. Silva was given a go as manager. He turned it around fast. Bang first season, not even a full season, he won the league from a struggling positon. He even beat Fonseca into third position.

He did this without spending money. Then he took Estoril into the top flight for the first time in a long time. As you say there is a big 3 in Portugal. There is also a clear 4th team, namely Braga. Estoril managed to finish above them. Silva defying the odd to get Estoril to 5th and into the EL. The next season he got them to a record 4th position and EL football again.

He had all the job offers he wanted after promotion. After 5th the big boys came knocking. He wanted to stay, and then after 4th, he felt he had taken Estoril as far as he could and took the Sporting job. That season he finished 5th, Fonseca took a bigger job and got higher in the table. Fonseca again crossed paths the year Silva got 4th. Fonseca had bagged himself the Porto job, but Silva's Estoril shocked Portugal and battered the unbeaten Porto at their ground. Porto were going like a train and were unbeaten and well clear. They then lost the next two games and Fonseca was immediately sacked.

He replaced the current Monaco manager, Leo Jardim. Jardim is a great manager, no doubt, but he had not won a trophy at Sporting. Silva did though. Their first for a long time, namely 7 seasons. All the sporting fans love him, and remember him well.

He then left and won a record breaking league title in Greece, breaking a few records there. Again the greeks remember him fondly as he took them to a new height.

Up to coming to England, he had an unblemished career. There was no period where he was struggling to win games. No matter how small the club, no matter how many players he had to sell to buy, he achieved. He mainly used what he had and developed the teams.

At Hull he took on Niasse. He got a few more castoffs and transformed the team overnight. He got 21 points from 18 games. Steve Bruce resigned from Hull before the season started. He was unhappy with the club for not signing and reinforcing the side. So in came Mike Phelan as caretaker and he had some unbelievable results in the first few games, then he got the job permanently and didn't win again. They were dead last, they were dead and they were buried. Silva's 21 points got them a point total that could have been enough in other seasons. Had he been there for the full season and duplicated it, especially considering he beat Man Utd and Liverpool, then he should have been able to stay up with at least 42 points.

Silva was sacked by Watford. But we wanted him when they were amongst the top 6. They were beating the best. We unsettled him and we unsettled the players. The players were banging on his door asking if he was going to take him with him (my source: The Times). When he was sacked, Watford sat in what would have been their highest finish position for 30 years, and their 3rd highest EVER. Watford had been 17th last season and their form since he left has been at that level as well. Their only period of consistent performance was o his watch. At Watford he had NO input in the signing of players. Watford is owned by the Pozzo family. They run a business and sign scores of players every season and move them around their numerous clubs and sell them to make a profit. They don't care too much about the clubs as they're in football to make money from player sales, just ask Udinese fans and Granada fans. Any money spent by Watford was by their Director of Football who answers directly to the owners who buy what they want.

The guy is a great coach with one blemish in his entire career. He is wounded and he is hungry. He will be determined to restore his reputation and he would the chance to manage Everton. He did everything he could to get the job originally and he is doing everything he can now to make himself available for us.

Marco Silva is a much better coach than many give him credit for. Just ask Jose Mourinho.

Just sayin like
@Bruce Wayne

I very much hope the reason Silva hasn't taken another job is because he's waiting till the last game of the season ends + has been watching the matches.

Fat Sam is a genius compared to Silva. Sam took Palace who were bottom at Xmas and saved them; similar at WHU and he has helped save EFC
this season. He got the boot at NUFC who went down the next season. And Silva...?

The issue is whether Sam is good enough to take off the fireman's kit and put on a trophy winning suit.

Not all that is Silva glistens..

Take a look at the Hull squad he had. They sold all of their best players...and most of the half decent ones...their squad was tiny and Phelan was only hired as a cheap option as the owners wanted to save costs and bring in cash on sales before they went down.

There wasn't even an attempt to keep them up either from signing players (silva got loans) or hiring a manager to replace bruce.

 

[Bluebonic]

I dont watch european football, so i genuinely havent a scooby about Fonseca and Emery. I have only heard about them because of the groupies on here going on about them all the time. Of the other two options i would go for Silva every time, simply because i have seen Hull and then Watford play some very good attacking football under him. I can not recall ever watching an Allardyce team and not thinking they were grim! Plus i genuinely despise the man as a person, he is a smug unpleasant character, and should not be here after the last match.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

why do you think he would be a disaster?

His antics at Hull and Watford - no loyalty whatsoever and is clueless about setting up a defense

 

[Zatara]

His antics at Hull and Watford - no loyalty whatsoever and is clueless about setting up a defense

Irrelevant really....Liverpool would be 6th if we judged their defence.

The fact is that Hull were cleaned out by the owners...and Watford were top 6 before we tapped him up.

 

[TyphooToffee]

Just read a full breakdown of Silva's record, like it so far
Credit to Steve Ferns on Toffeeweb.
Silva had a mediocre playing career at left back in Portugal. He hung up his boots at Estoril and as he was noted as clever and astute guy he was made a coach and then Director of Football. In his second season, the manager was performing dreadful right from the start and Estoril were in the bottom places in the Portugese second tier. Silva was given a go as manager. He turned it around fast. Bang first season, not even a full season, he won the league from a struggling positon. He even beat Fonseca into third position.

He did this without spending money. Then he took Estoril into the top flight for the first time in a long time. As you say there is a big 3 in Portugal. There is also a clear 4th team, namely Braga. Estoril managed to finish above them. Silva defying the odd to get Estoril to 5th and into the EL. The next season he got them to a record 4th position and EL football again.

He had all the job offers he wanted after promotion. After 5th the big boys came knocking. He wanted to stay, and then after 4th, he felt he had taken Estoril as far as he could and took the Sporting job. That season he finished 5th, Fonseca took a bigger job and got higher in the table. Fonseca again crossed paths the year Silva got 4th. Fonseca had bagged himself the Porto job, but Silva's Estoril shocked Portugal and battered the unbeaten Porto at their ground. Porto were going like a train and were unbeaten and well clear. They then lost the next two games and Fonseca was immediately sacked.

He replaced the current Monaco manager, Leo Jardim. Jardim is a great manager, no doubt, but he had not won a trophy at Sporting. Silva did though. Their first for a long time, namely 7 seasons. All the sporting fans love him, and remember him well.

He then left and won a record breaking league title in Greece, breaking a few records there. Again the greeks remember him fondly as he took them to a new height.

Up to coming to England, he had an unblemished career. There was no period where he was struggling to win games. No matter how small the club, no matter how many players he had to sell to buy, he achieved. He mainly used what he had and developed the teams.

At Hull he took on Niasse. He got a few more castoffs and transformed the team overnight. He got 21 points from 18 games. Steve Bruce resigned from Hull before the season started. He was unhappy with the club for not signing and reinforcing the side. So in came Mike Phelan as caretaker and he had some unbelievable results in the first few games, then he got the job permanently and didn't win again. They were dead last, they were dead and they were buried. Silva's 21 points got them a point total that could have been enough in other seasons. Had he been there for the full season and duplicated it, especially considering he beat Man Utd and Liverpool, then he should have been able to stay up with at least 42 points.

Silva was sacked by Watford. But we wanted him when they were amongst the top 6. They were beating the best. We unsettled him and we unsettled the players. The players were banging on his door asking if he was going to take him with him (my source: The Times). When he was sacked, Watford sat in what would have been their highest finish position for 30 years, and their 3rd highest EVER. Watford had been 17th last season and their form since he left has been at that level as well. Their only period of consistent performance was o his watch. At Watford he had NO input in the signing of players. Watford is owned by the Pozzo family. They run a business and sign scores of players every season and move them around their numerous clubs and sell them to make a profit. They don't care too much about the clubs as they're in football to make money from player sales, just ask Udinese fans and Granada fans. Any money spent by Watford was by their Director of Football who answers directly to the owners who buy what they want.

The guy is a great coach with one blemish in his entire career. He is wounded and he is hungry. He will be determined to restore his reputation and he would the chance to manage Everton. He did everything he could to get the job originally and he is doing everything he can now to make himself available for us.

Marco Silva is a much better coach than many give him credit for. Just ask Jose Mourinho.

Just sayin like
@Bruce Wayne

My original opinion was it was a risk taking him because he could have his head turned as he did when we came knocking. Now, having read that, I think it's a risk worth taking.

 

[TyphooToffee]

You lost me at the first line...and probably many others

Yep, I'm one of those others

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Silva has left every club post Estoril under a cloud. But go ahead and appoint someone who spends an average of a season at a club (and that is being generous including Watford and Hull). His record at Watford is rubbish, slightly better at Hull, typically excellent managing Olympiakos in the one-team Greek League.

 

[Tez]

Thoughts?

 

[Lelouch]

Jesus that would be a disaster and a half.

 

[Ring master]

Thoughts?

no,and probably another name to link to us for the sake of it lol

 

[Lelouch]

If we can't get Fonseca just go straight for Silva, Some of the names getting chucked around lately is scary.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Thoughts?

No objections from me . I think he's doing very well at NYC FC. He was considered for the Newcastle job a few years ago and he's progressed further since then.
If there is a real link ,which there probably isn't, I see no reason why he can't be considered.

 

[Philw]

Having watched an entire 45 minutes of Huddersfield this season, against Man City today, I would like to throw David Wagner's hat into the ring.