2018/19 Idrissa Gueye

[BlueToff]

You can only keep players who want to stay. It’s either a new contract for the lad or we get the best deal possible and reinvest for the future. We need to get used to this, we will have player turnover until we establish ourselves as CL quality. Even then, you’re still in trouble when genuine European heavyweights want your players (think bale, Suarez and Coutinho)

It's a two-sided coin.

I understand your point and I even understand that there is some sense in him going due to his age (not that he's actually old) and that we'll probably not get a bigger offer.

But... how do we push on and press to become a CL club or a club challenging the top six on a consistent basis if, just as we look like we're on the verge of really pushing on, we keep selling our best players?

I have no doubt if he goes we'll get a replacement in but we'll be very lucky if they come close to doing the job Gueye does so well. There simply aren't many players out there like him, at the end of the day. So it will mean a change in style. Again, not a bad thing, but something that could well take time and just going off how long it took to adapt last season, if that something we can afford if we really want to catch the teams above us?

It's annoying to sell your best player when there's some utter dross left that needs to be moved on first.

 

[MACCA75]

Always so many people keen for us to offload our best player every year. Normally the same ones who are surprised when we don’t get anywhere the following season.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It's a two-sided coin.

I understand your point and I even understand that there is some sense in him going due to his age (not that he's actually old) and that we'll probably not get a bigger offer.

But... how do we push on and press to become a CL club or a club challenging the top six on a consistent basis if, just as we look like we're on the verge of really pushing on, we keep selling our best players?

I have no doubt if he goes we'll get a replacement in but we'll be very lucky if they come close to doing the job Gueye does so well. There simply aren't many players out there like him, at the end of the day. So it will mean a change in style. Again, not a bad thing, but something that could well take time and just going off how long it took to adapt last season, if that something we can afford if we really want to catch the teams above us?

It's annoying to sell your best player when there's some utter dross left that needs to be moved on first.

It makes zero sense to sell.

Those saying how can we turn down £30 mil for a 30 year old - £30 mil gets you a Mitrovic/Bolasie/Lewis Dunk/Solanke these days.

I honestly would rather Gana than £30 million.

 

[summerisle]

Always so many people keen for us to offload our best player every year. Normally the same ones who are surprised when we don’t get anywhere the following season.

He's now our best player ?

 

[BernieH]

Too slow. He needs to move somewhere though. He's not going to play at Lyon.

Central midfielders don't need to be fast ffs, get a grip, some of the greatest players ever weren't fast.

 

[Toffeelover]

It makes zero sense to sell.

Those saying how can we turn down £30 mil for a 30 year old - £30 mil gets you a Mitrovic/Bolasie/Lewis Dunk/Solanke these days.

I honestly would rather Gana than £30 million.

It would appear he is keen on the move rather than stay here. Want to keep an unhappy player just like Lookman?

 

[buskwhi2]

It makes zero sense to sell.

Those saying how can we turn down £30 mil for a 30 year old - £30 mil gets you a Mitrovic/Bolasie/Lewis Dunk/Solanke these days.

I honestly would rather Gana than £30 million.

It’s difficult to judge what is/isn’t a good deal without knowing who brands will bring in. Yes you’ve quoted some crap deals but if brands was going to bring in a Gomez or digne level of player for similar fees that we paid then I’d be all for it. It’s worth noting the players you’ve mentioned are from English clubs - there’s clearly much better value abroad.

 

[Thomasc]

Always so many people keen for us to offload our best player every year. Normally the same ones who are surprised when we don’t get anywhere the following season.

TBF in this instance it’s irrelevant what anybody wants apart from the player. Think most of us would rather keep him in an ideal world.

 

[Lelouch]

Selling Gueye would not be the make or break for us reaching top 6 imo.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It would appear he is keen on the move rather than stay here. Want to keep an unhappy player just like Lookman?

I think he's a good enough guy to keep performing at a professional level - I would be saying to him if PSG offer £40 million+ you can go otherwise you're too important to the team to lose for £30-35 million.

If Palace can do it with Zaha why cant we do it with Gueye?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It’s difficult to judge what is/isn’t a good deal without knowing who brands will bring in. Yes you’ve quoted some crap deals but if brands was going to bring in a Gomez or digne level of player for similar fees that we paid then I’d be all for it. It’s worth noting the players you’ve mentioned are from English clubs - there’s clearly much better value abroad.

I think if there were younger and good enough players out there in Europe for the same sort of price of replacing Gana PSG would be after them mate.

Its a unique situation as what he offers simply can not be replaced by what fee we can bring in based on his age.

Only Vardy at Leicester springs to mind - Leicister would never get huge money for a 33 year old however who replaces the 15-20 goals a season he scores for them should they sell him for say £20 million based on his age when if he was 27 he would fetch £70+ million?

Its a no win for us mate.

 

[BornBlue76]

Just leaving this here..

 

[Goat]

Genuine question: with Gueye apparently pushing for a move in Jan and now again.... is he also a ratfink ? Doesn’t matter how well he played just that he asked the manager to leave? Isn’t that the measure?

No, RATFINKS only care about themselves.

Gana is a model pro.

 

[Lelouch]

I think if there were younger and good enough players out there in Europe for the same sort of price of replacing Gana PSG would be after them mate.

Its a unique situation as what he offers simply can not be replaced by what fee we can bring in based on his age.

Only Vardy at Leicester springs to mind - Leicister would never get huge money for a 33 year old however who replaces the 15-20 goals a season he scores for them should they sell him for say £20 million based on his age when if he was 27 he would fetch £70+ million?

Its a no win for us mate.

You can't use Vardy in the situation, He scores 10-15 goals a season which effects the game and results far more than Gana winning the ball back in midfield does.
Gana is one of the best ball winning midfielders in the world that's it, He isn't very good at much else apart from being a energetic player.
I honestly think suitable replacements are out there.

 

[RFUS]

I really don't understand why people are so blasé about him leaving. He has been in our top 3 players every season since signing. He's honestly irreplaceable in a like-for-like sense. The handful of games he's missed we end up leaking goals all over the shop.

If he wants to leave then I think we should let him go for a decent offer, simply because he's earned it, but if it happens I certainly won't be happy about it. He will be missed as he is an absolutely top drawer player.